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No, taei, you are totally right about everything. They screwed up every single second of Sleeping Beauty. It's...ugh. They made every single of the characters (minus Aurora and Philip) the TOTAL opposite what they're supposed to be!

Maleficent: The GREATEST Disney villain of all time. Nah, she tries to fight evil. She's just misunderstood.

Stefan: This noble king. Forget that: He's a sadistic tyrant who want to kill all of the fairies or whatever.

The three good fairies: Pretty much the stars of the movie. Wise, loving, caring, gentle.....just kidding, they're completely stupid, self-absorbed, and just terrible fairies.

Hey, at least, they didn't screw up the most iconic Sleeping Beauty AND DISNEY scenes of all tim...

THE STUPID BIRD IS THE DRAGON AND MALEFICIENT IS THE ONE WHO AWAKENS AURORA WITH THE KISS.

Just the fact that they couldn't get these 2 scenes right is just baffling. Absolutely baffling.

I can't believe this is the writer who gave us Beauty and the Beast! Just wow.

Now, Wicked is a good show with LOTS of stupid additions like Elphaba, fighting for the monkeys and her boyfriend is the Scarecrow. Wicked is MUCH BETTER than this because it's actually pretty close to the Wizards of Oz and they get the characters and their back stories right (like Glinda, going from a mean girl to a wise, mature woman and the Wicked Witch of the East becoming the Wicked Witch, as a result of her handicaps and pursuing of Boq/the Tin Man). Maleficent isn't EVEN close to its source material nor the characters. It doesn't even try when it's supposed to try.

And the worst part is that Disney is advertising this like, "Oh, Sleeping Beauty didn't happen. The fairies made that junk up. THIS is the true story. Forget your childhood and Disney's legacy. THIS is what really happened!

Darn this movie, really. I was praying that Disney wouldn't touch my favorite childhood movie after I saw what they did to ALICE. But, nope. They screwed this up too. And I'm sorry, Walt that they turned your last fairytale to a joke.

Got rewrites for the script, huh? Yeah. Fucking. Right! Disney, I hope this blows up in your face even more than Lone Ranger did and that the flop makes you realize how stupid you are!

disneyprincess11 wrote:
I can't believe this is the writer who gave us Beauty and the Beast! Just wow.

And the worst part is that Disney is advertising this like, "Oh, Sleeping Beauty didn't happen. The fairies made that junk up. THIS is the true story. Forget your childhood and Disney's legacy. THIS is what really happened!

Darn this movie, really. I was praying that Disney wouldn't touch my favorite childhood movie after I saw what they did to ALICE. But, nope. They screwed this up too. And I'm sorry, Walt that they turned your last fairytale to a joke.

Linda Wouvertotn (?) wrote both Alice and Beauty and the Beast. I thought Alice was mediocrely ok.. not awful. story was terrible, but tim burton's darkness kinda made it tolerable.

It's just sad what they've done.. And I am glad that you agree with me Disneyprincess11, glad to have someone who shares my opinions

As for the movie itself.... like you said, I hope that people don't start sympathizing with Maleficent. She is a horrible fairy who cursed an infant baby because The King and Queen deemed her status below them (by not inviting her). That's it, that's the story. Let's move on..

DisneyJedi wrote:Got rewrites for the script, huh? Yeah. Fucking. Right! Disney, I hope this blows up in your face even more than Lone Ranger did and that the flop makes you realize how stupid you are!

Good lord Jedi I know you don't like it, but I would never wish it to bomb.

Oh well..... I guess I'm on my own then... So much negativity on this one...

I'm sorry, Master. It's just that I'm starting to get really mad that Disney's apparently tarnishing the greatest villain that's come out of their animation studio.

Looking forward to when this movie makes a billion and gets a sequel announced.

Musical Master, if you're excited to see the movie for yourself, that's fine. But a there are a lot of peeps out there, including myself, who adore this particular character because she was such a wonderful villain, and it is rather disappointing and outrageous to see one of our beloved villains changed into the complete opposite of what she originally represented.

Her portrayal in the upcoming movie goes completely against the original character, as well as the portrayal of every other character from the original movie.

And, like disneyprincess11 said, they're advertising the movie and making it out as though the original never happened, which I find to be a bit distasteful.

It makes me wonder if these people were even familiar with the original movie, and its characters...

Musical Master wrote: Oh well..... I guess I'm on my own then... So much negativity on this one...

I'm actually with you on this, Musical Master. I'm very excited to see how this turns out. I'm actually not reading a single one of the spoilers, I never read the leaked script, won't be reading the reviews beforehand and so I'll basically be walking into this completely blind outside of seeing the couple of trailers released thus far. As per my own personal policy, I'm not criticising any aspect of this movie until I watch the whole thing from start to finish and unlike most people on here, I'm not walking in with a scowl. Robert Stromberg, Linda Woolverton, Don Hahn, Angelina Jolie and the other folks working on this project are making this with the best of intentions and I plan on respecting that. If I don't like the movie, so be it. But at least, I gave the people who have been working hard on this movie for a number of years, the chance to impress me.

Warm Regards wrote:Looking forward to when this movie makes a billion and gets a sequel announced.

estefan wrote:

Musical Master wrote: Oh well..... I guess I'm on my own then... So much negativity on this one...

I'm actually with you on this, Musical Master. I'm very excited to see how this turns out. I'm actually not reading a single one of the spoilers, I never read the leaked script, won't be reading the reviews beforehand and so I'll basically be walking into this completely blind outside of seeing the couple of trailers released thus far. As per my own personal policy, I'm not criticising any aspect of this movie until I watch the whole thing from start to finish and unlike most people on here, I'm not walking in with a scowl. Robert Stromberg, Linda Woolverton, Don Hahn, Angelina Jolie and the other folks working on this project are making this with the best of intentions and I plan on respecting that. If I don't like the movie, so be it. But at least, I gave the people who have been working hard on this movie for a number of years, the chance to impress me.

That does make me feel better estefan and Warm Regards thank you.

Again, I'm really sorry for any negativity. It's just that I was hoping that they actually made rewrites to the script. But now it seems like they didn't even bother.

DisneyJedi wrote:Again, I'm really sorry for any negativity. It's just that I was hoping that they actually made rewrites to the script. But now it seems like they didn't even bother.

It's okay Jedi, I accept. Now. On to more important matters at hand.

I'm also with those on the positive side! Are there unnecessary changes made to the source material. Absolutely. There are plenty of things in this that I wouldn't have personally chose to happen, but there's not much use in complaining about it. I understand that this is a reinvention of the story. The story that we recognize (and I will hear no arguments that "the story isn't even recognizable any more") because nearly all of the elements of the original are there, just in a different and (for better or for worse) unexpected way. I have tremendous love for the original film and character and, honestly, this film and Angelina seem to be keeping what I loved about the character anyway. Sure she was pure evil without remorse, but more than that she was just so elegant and icy and so aesthetically pleasing. I think that's what draw most people to her in the first place. Her persona is so intriguing. As far as I can tell, they've kept a lot of that for this film. Angelina's voice, gestures, and overall acting are very respectful to the original character.

I totally get those that are complaining. I mean, the internet is basically a breeding ground for complainers. I get it, it's fun to bitch about things we have control. As my screen name indicates, I was huge into Star Wars many years ago (I am now just realizing I have been registered here for TEN YEARS) and I know that a huge part of that fan bases' time is spent complaining. It's a "fun" way to spend time I suppose, but in the end it's not really fulfilling or worth anyone's time.

So, I am continuing to look forward to and support this project based on the mere fact that it was even made and Disney is recognizing a character that has been my favorite since I can even remember. I get that those that want "respect" for the original character will be upset, but on the same token, I'm glad to see Disney take a chance on a property as risky as this one. I want to see it succeed because it means they'll take more chances on similar projects. If you think this film flopping would signal "people don't like bad movies" to Disney, you're wrong. Instead, it would signal "don't take risks, make more pirate, princess, and marvel movies" to them.

That post was probably as meandering as it gets, but I haven't posted in this thread for a while, so I wanted to get a lot of my opinions out there.

lord-of-sith wrote:I'm also with those on the positive side! Are there unnecessary changes made to the source material. Absolutely. There are plenty of things in this that I wouldn't have personally chose to happen, but there's not much use in complaining about it. I understand that this is a reinvention of the story. The story that we recognize (and I will hear no arguments that "the story isn't even recognizable any more") because nearly all of the elements of the original are there, just in a different and (for better or for worse) unexpected way. I have tremendous love for the original film and character and, honestly, this film and Angelina seem to be keeping what I loved about the character anyway. Sure she was pure evil without remorse, but more than that she was just so elegant and icy and so aesthetically pleasing. I think that's what draw most people to her in the first place. Her persona is so intriguing. As far as I can tell, they've kept a lot of that for this film. Angelina's voice, gestures, and overall acting are very respectful to the original character.

I totally get those that are complaining. I mean, the internet is basically a breeding ground for complainers. I get it, it's fun to bitch about things we have control. As my screen name indicates, I was huge into Star Wars many years ago (I am now just realizing I have been registered here for TEN YEARS) and I know that a huge part of that fan bases' time is spent complaining. It's a "fun" way to spend time I suppose, but in the end it's not really fulfilling or worth anyone's time.

So, I am continuing to look forward to and support this project based on the mere fact that it was even made and Disney is recognizing a character that has been my favorite since I can even remember. I get that those that want "respect" for the original character will be upset, but on the same token, I'm glad to see Disney take a chance on a property as risky as this one. I want to see it succeed because it means they'll take more chances on similar projects. If you think this film flopping would signal "people don't like bad movies" to Disney, you're wrong. Instead, it would signal "don't take risks, make more pirate, princess, and marvel movies" to them.

That post was probably as meandering as it gets, but I haven't posted in this thread for a while, so I wanted to get a lot of my opinions out there.

lord-of-sith wrote:I'm also with those on the positive side! Are there unnecessary changes made to the source material. Absolutely. There are plenty of things in this that I wouldn't have personally chose to happen, but there's not much use in complaining about it. I understand that this is a reinvention of the story. The story that we recognize (and I will hear no arguments that "the story isn't even recognizable any more") because nearly all of the elements of the original are there, just in a different and (for better or for worse) unexpected way. I have tremendous love for the original film and character and, honestly, this film and Angelina seem to be keeping what I loved about the character anyway. Sure she was pure evil without remorse, but more than that she was just so elegant and icy and so aesthetically pleasing. I think that's what draw most people to her in the first place. Her persona is so intriguing. As far as I can tell, they've kept a lot of that for this film. Angelina's voice, gestures, and overall acting are very respectful to the original character.

I totally get those that are complaining. I mean, the internet is basically a breeding ground for complainers. I get it, it's fun to bitch about things we have control. As my screen name indicates, I was huge into Star Wars many years ago (I am now just realizing I have been registered here for TEN YEARS) and I know that a huge part of that fan bases' time is spent complaining. It's a "fun" way to spend time I suppose, but in the end it's not really fulfilling or worth anyone's time.

So, I am continuing to look forward to and support this project based on the mere fact that it was even made and Disney is recognizing a character that has been my favorite since I can even remember. I get that those that want "respect" for the original character will be upset, but on the same token, I'm glad to see Disney take a chance on a property as risky as this one. I want to see it succeed because it means they'll take more chances on similar projects. If you think this film flopping would signal "people don't like bad movies" to Disney, you're wrong. Instead, it would signal "don't take risks, make more pirate, princess, and marvel movies" to them.

That post was probably as meandering as it gets, but I haven't posted in this thread for a while, so I wanted to get a lot of my opinions out there.

Expressing ourselves and giving voice to our thoughts, positive or negative, is not unfulfilling and a waste of time!

lord-of-sith wrote:I'm also with those on the positive side! Are there unnecessary changes made to the source material. Absolutely. There are plenty of things in this that I wouldn't have personally chose to happen, but there's not much use in complaining about it. I understand that this is a reinvention of the story. The story that we recognize (and I will hear no arguments that "the story isn't even recognizable any more") because nearly all of the elements of the original are there, just in a different and (for better or for worse) unexpected way. I have tremendous love for the original film and character and, honestly, this film and Angelina seem to be keeping what I loved about the character anyway. Sure she was pure evil without remorse, but more than that she was just so elegant and icy and so aesthetically pleasing. I think that's what draw most people to her in the first place. Her persona is so intriguing. As far as I can tell, they've kept a lot of that for this film. Angelina's voice, gestures, and overall acting are very respectful to the original character.

I totally get those that are complaining. I mean, the internet is basically a breeding ground for complainers. I get it, it's fun to bitch about things we have control. As my screen name indicates, I was huge into Star Wars many years ago (I am now just realizing I have been registered here for TEN YEARS) and I know that a huge part of that fan bases' time is spent complaining. It's a "fun" way to spend time I suppose, but in the end it's not really fulfilling or worth anyone's time.

So, I am continuing to look forward to and support this project based on the mere fact that it was even made and Disney is recognizing a character that has been my favorite since I can even remember. I get that those that want "respect" for the original character will be upset, but on the same token, I'm glad to see Disney take a chance on a property as risky as this one. I want to see it succeed because it means they'll take more chances on similar projects. If you think this film flopping would signal "people don't like bad movies" to Disney, you're wrong. Instead, it would signal "don't take risks, make more pirate, princess, and marvel movies" to them.

That post was probably as meandering as it gets, but I haven't posted in this thread for a while, so I wanted to get a lot of my opinions out there.

Well said! I don't understand why people have so much hate for this movie.

Sicoe Vlad wrote:Well said! I don't understand why people have so much hate for this movie.

I don’t either.

Maleficent haters: you don’t know what you’re talking about.

No disrespect intended, no insult attached, no condescension implied. In the most literal sense, you just don’t know what you’re talking about. The film does not yet exist, for all practical intents and purposes; you haven’t had the experience of watching it, so how can you possibly judge it fairly?

You can’t judge a film by its trailers any more than a book by its cover. And you can’t judge it by a leaked shooting script, either: without being on set, you can’t be certain what you’ve read is what’s actually intended to be shot, and anyone with any practical experience in filmmaking knows that even a final draft is only just that—a draft. Things happen during production and post-production: lines and entire scenes are rewritten, shuffled, cut entirely. And no reading can adequately or accurately render the final product.

Bagging on a film you haven’t seen is unfair to the film and the filmmakers. And it’s unfair to yourself to base on opinion on ether and carry it into the theatre with you—you rob yourself of any opportunity to have an unbiased, honest reaction to the presentation.

Sorry. But I think I've read enough about it to know that it's not something I'm putting my money into seeing at the theaters, and being told 'you haven't seen it yet, so how can you judge' makes it all the more worse... I'll see it when it comes on to television, but that's it.

From what I've read, it's everything I never wanted all rolled onto one taco. It might be a good movie. It looks like a good movie. But they've changed the characters too much, and I can't bring myself to forgive them.

So no. Sorry. But no.

Disney Duster wrote:Expressing ourselves and giving voice to our thoughts, positive or negative, is not unfulfilling and a waste of time!

I just had a crazy thought: what if Maleficent pulls a Frozen on us. In theory what would happen if in the final film Diaval turns into a dragon by Maleficent to stop Stefan and his men from killing her, somehow Diaval gets killed by Stefan, this is the point to where Maleficent snaps and becomes the great evil character you all know and love and once she gets her wings back, she transforms into a dragon to kill Stefan and attemps to destroy Phillip.

Remember Rick Baker did state somewhere on the internet that he applied special make-up on Jolie to be part of a transformation sequence into a "Lizard-dragon like creature". There's hope you guys, there is hope.

Kraken Guard wrote:Sorry. But I think I've read enough about it to know that it's not something I'm putting my money into seeing at the theaters, and being told 'you haven't seen it yet, so how can you judge' makes it all the more worse... I'll see it when it comes on to television, but that's it.

From what I've read, it's everything I never wanted all rolled onto one taco. It might be a good movie. It looks like a good movie. But they've changed the characters too much, and I can't bring myself to forgive them.

So no. Sorry. But no.

Seeing as you're such a big Maleficent fan, I'd imagine you'd be super-duper excited about seeing it. The same character, but from a different perspective.

Kraken Guard wrote:Sorry. But I think I've read enough about it to know that it's not something I'm putting my money into seeing at the theaters, and being told 'you haven't seen it yet, so how can you judge' makes it all the more worse... I'll see it when it comes on to television, but that's it.

From what I've read, it's everything I never wanted all rolled onto one taco. It might be a good movie. It looks like a good movie. But they've changed the characters too much, and I can't bring myself to forgive them.

So no. Sorry. But no.

Disney Duster wrote:Expressing ourselves and giving voice to our thoughts, positive or negative, is not unfulfilling and a waste of time!

Hey, you’re absolutely entitled to your opinion, and to making informed choices about how to spend your money. No problem with any of that whatsoever.

It’s the “I hope it bombs” and “they’ve ruined Sleeping Beauty” kind of sentiment that’s misplaced. There’s a huge difference between deciding one is disinterested and actively lobbying for its failure—the latter *is* the definition of unproductive, a *destructive* sentiment. And it’s petty.

Why hope for its failure anyway? It hasn’t “ruined Sleeping Beauty”—it hasn’t *touched* Sleeping Beauty. This isn’t Star Wars we’re talking about; no one is going into the animation studio and the editing bay to make changes to the animated feature to accommodate this new iteration. If you love the '59 classic, it still exists; if Maleficent ruins that for someone, that’s a personal choice. Wicked didn’t “ruin” The Wizard of Oz.