The awards site has posted two stills of the ending and....
https://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com ... t/consider
DisneyFan09 wrote:I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this, but here it goes; I think it's strange and unsuitable that this movie will have a "I Want"-number for Vanellope. A number that is going to even be sung by her and another character. Due to the Ralph universe never called for the characters bursting into song, it seems contrived and shoehorned in to even have it. And yes, I know that the number is justified due to this movie being about Princesses and Vanellope actually being one. But to be fair, I think it's ridiculous, regardless of it being composed by Menken or not. Sorry, folks.
No, no, no, no - I feel the same way. And trust me, you aren't the only one.
I know I sound two-face, I can still love something so much and be critical of it. The problems are:
1) Like you said, the first movie wasn't a musical. So, the song messes up the rules of the existing world. If Disney kept the King Candy song in the first film, this song would make way more sense. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at the least if Lassenter himself axed the number, telling from the addition of the Lopezes and the timing of the song being added after Lassenter's firing, and Rich approaching Alan with Rich finally getting his musical number added.
2) Vanellope may be a
president Disney Princess, but she is the least traditional of all of them by personality and wit. That said, Vanellope is definitely not one who bursts into song. They may have paved the way for her to sing, but the thing is: She's not a girly girl, there's no aspect of her musically like the other's (minus Merida). Plus, she gets the idea from the princesses to sing.
She struggles to find a song for a while, but is she really the character who would care about singing?
3) Adding to #2, if a Wreck-It Ralph character has to sing, it would be King Candy. Why? His personality matches with a song. He's wacky, bizarre, jolly and unpredictable. He's based off Ed Wynn and his Mad Hatter. Therefore, it would not be surprising at the least if King Candy had a musical number.
4) Adding to #3, Sugar Rush is, like its fake king, wacky, bizarre, jolly and unpredictable. A random musical number with children and happy candy would go with that. Slaughter Race is a new world, so it can get away with a musical number for the game's rules. But, what is it about the place that would tell you it bursts into song? Yes, the characters aren't what they seem, but still.
5) They're definitely pushing Vanellope to be just like the Disney Princesses, not that I'm complaining too much. Wreck-It ralph came right before Frozen and after PaTF, which tanked and Tangled, which did good, but didn't completely welcome back fairytales in pop culture. Disney was still ashamed of their princesses and the princess/presidency gags were a clear jab at the girls. Now 6 years later, Frozen came out and it's okay for people to love princesses once again. It's as if the executives were like, "Hey! Vanellope is a princess! Let's make money out of her in the lineup and force her onto these different things that the first movie was against." And it really shows through the song. Not much the Princess scene b/c she's still in character.
I love my girl, the Princess scenes, and (already) this song and I'm grateful for all of this, but Disney needs to know its creations and stick with the lane. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
estefan wrote:This is just a guess on my part, as I haven't watched the movie, but is it possible the pop version of Menken's song is played after the Imagine Dragons song in the credits? Because Academy rules specify that for an end credits song to be eligible, it needs to be the first song played. So it's likely they can't submit that version of the song for Academy voters.
"There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the motion picture or as the first music cue in the end credits."
https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/fil ... _rules.pdf
Ah, that does make much more sense why the movie version is being nominated. Thanks for posting! Not holding my breath for a nomination though.
JeanGreyForever wrote:Prince Kido wrote:
Sure he made so great memorable songs for Disney but I already forgot the one of Vanellope which was just very "Broadway-like" though it was a fun parody and that the french voice of Van did a great job (but you won't care for that, lol).
Not surprised to hear this at all. I know Menken would be wasted on this film.
Better than no Alan. I do have a feeling the pop version might be better lyric-wise. If the version is more beautiful and moving and emotional, they should have made that the movie version to give the movie some epic Disney, instead of the parody. But, we'll find out soon enough.
Sounding by the books, everyone has a decent screen time, minus KnowsMore. My problem isn't the new characters getting screen time. I don't get why they couldn't make more time for Calhoun/Felix and the racers.