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Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:44 am**

Sotiris wrote:Here are some spoiler-filled images from 'The Art' of book.

Sven in his fancy outfit is getting me emotional for some reason. I love it!

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:36 am**

D82 wrote:Thanks, Rumpelstiltskin! I didn't know the stone giants were also inspired by Norse mythology.

You welcome. Giants are common in Norse mythology (and in other mythologies), but the fact that they are also made of stone is less common (at least while still alive), so it is possible that they have taken som liberties because they thought it looked cooler if they were made of living stone, or borrowed from other mythologies, like Irish mythology.
Then again, also the tiny trolls from the first movie is made of some kind of stone. Maybe the filmmakers are trying to use the elements of nature as part of the plot, like water, ice, stone, earth, fire and so on. We'll probably get some answers from behind the scenes-material or future interviews.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:20 am**

Perhaps these giants were added in as a replacement for those from Gigantic?

Sorry, I couldn't resist

nomad2010 wrote:I’m honestly impressed with the song simply because it’s clearly NOT trying to be Let It Go. I truly thought they’d try hard to recapture that moment for this movie, and I’m so glad to see they didn’t and just let the song come from the story. I think it’s nice enough. It still isn’t the most... creative instrumentally, and the lyrics are of course not Ashman level, but we knew that going in. The only thing that really bothers me is I feel like the *voice* doesn’t musically fit in the song at times. Almost as if it’s at odds against the music, and it takes away from the song instead of adding to it. Maybe I’m crazy, but I’ve thought that every time I’ve heard it. It’s like a placeholder voice and they never wrote one to perfectly fit musically with the full song.

Well, of course. It's not as it needed to be the next Let it Go, anyway. I appreciated that, too, though I still think the song was better at it's very end.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:24 pm**

So glad Hans has one scene. It has to be a post-credits scene where he reacts to Anna being queen. Come on, that reaction would be priceless!

About the pic:

QUEEN ANNA IS EVERYTHING! I can not wait to see more of Snow Queen/Goddess Elsa!

Also, do I know all of the spoilers already? I want there to be surprises!

The major spoilers that I know:

Queen Anna/Goddess Elsa.
Evil Grandpa
Queen Iduna as the voice....I think?

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:33 pm**

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:Then again, also the tiny trolls from the first movie is made of some kind of stone. Maybe the filmmakers are trying to use the elements of nature as part of the plot, like water, ice, stone, earth, fire and so on. We'll probably get some answers from behind the scenes-material or future interviews.

It's true, the trolls from the first film were also made of stone. Yes, we'll probably learn more about them in future interviews or behind-the-scenes stuff.

Sotiris wrote:Here's another picture with some of the sketches he did for Frozen 2.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3ZbgK5gIWp/

Thanks, Sotiris!

nomad2010 wrote:I truly thought they’d try hard to recapture that moment for this movie, and I’m so glad to see they didn’t and just let the song come from the story.

Visually, however, it'll probably be reminiscent of "Let It Go" given that Elsa is creating things with her magic during both musical numbers.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:07 pm**

Taken from the book "Frozen II: Forest of Shadows". Disney finally gave Frozen fans a lesbian couple! It's just in book form.

Source: https://uhhvoidant.tumblr.com/tagged/forest-of-shadows

I can't believe I hadn't realized the reference before.

Source: https://twitter.com/sarareneexo/status/ ... 0071222272

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:15 pm**

The Frozen 2 read-along storybook and CD has been leaked. It includes snippets of dialogue from the film. Needless to say, it's full of spoilers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6cewXKU_qY

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:19 pm**

Sotiris wrote:I can't believe I hadn't realized the reference before.

Source: https://twitter.com/sarareneexo/status/ ... 0071222272

I hadn't realized it either.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:32 pm**

disneyprincess11 wrote:Queen Iduna as the voice....I think?

That's what I thought at first too because of the duet Elsa sings with Iduna but after I read the Little Golden Book, I think the voice she heard was just her unconscious self. In the book it said "The voice that had called to her now quieted to a whisper, and she realized it had been within her all along."

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:57 pm**

Well, Golden Book hides a lot. So, we'll see. Also: Tell me Jesus that Olaf survives because......the scene where he melts. Ouch.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:05 am**

Kristoff-related spoilers.

https://nlsteph.tumblr.com/post/1885393 ... t-ring-for
https://nlsteph.tumblr.com/post/1885390 ... -which-was

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:08 am**

Oh Sotiris! You were right about the voice being Elsa. According to a book, Iduna's part is a reprise of All is Found. Also, not surprisingly: Olaf does survive. She revives him during the reunion. Disney wouldn't have killed him off.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:02 pm**

In which book were these spoilers? Do you have a link? I don't agree with how they're handling Olaf. This is the second fake-out they do where he supposedly melts/dies in order to emotionally manipulate the audience. How many times are they going pull the same trick? They should have never written such a plot point in the sequel if they weren't willing to follow through with it. This is just lazy writing.

By the way, it just occurred to me that the ice cave Elsa enters towards the end of the film represents a womb through which she's reborn. By exiting the cave she has reached a new state of being as a spirit. It's a clever use of symbolism.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:40 pm**

It was one of the videos on YouTube: The movie storybook. She was described as "Her mother's words about the river echo in her mind."

I somewhat disagree you about Olaf. Seems like the scene is definitely a tearjerker. And he is gone for a long long time: Like 30-45 minutes. The first Frozen at least teased about Olaf melting, but at that moment, it was pretty slow. When Olaf melts at the end, it was 4 seconds

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:20 pm**

All these bits of spoilers are making me even more intrigued as to how the movie will execute these plot-points. Plus I hope the soundtrack samples come out soon so I can hear more of the other songs; "All is Found" and "Show Yourself" have me curious.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:25 pm**

Wow, if Olaf is really gone for 30-45 minutes of screentime, that's almost half the film.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:07 pm**

JeanGreyForever wrote:Wow, if Olaf is really gone for 30-45 minutes of screentime, that's almost half the film.

No, he won't be gone for that long. He melts during the third act. I'd say it's more like 10-15 min.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:50 pm**

So it looks like Elsa discovers she's the over-powered 5th spirit in her sequel, while Ralph was the bumbling, clingy moron in his sequel. Disney is promoting these characters exactly how I thought. Thank goodness we go back to Originality/Raya in 2020!

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:17 pm**

Sotiris wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote:Wow, if Olaf is really gone for 30-45 minutes of screentime, that's almost half the film.
No, he won't be gone for that long. He melts during the third act. I'd say it's more like 10-15 min.

Oh ok. Disneyprincess11 said he'd be gone for 30-45 minutes which seemed like a really long time to kill him off.

DisneyEra wrote:So it looks like Elsa discovers she's the over-powered 5th spirit in her sequel, while Ralph was the bumbling, clingy moron in his sequel. Disney is promoting these characters exactly how I thought. Thank goodness we go back to Originality/Raya in 2020!

Lol, I always love your posts.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:27 pm**

So Im gonna assume that whatever happens after this film, whether a 3rd sequel, shorts or a series,will take place during the 3 year gap that takes place before the 2nd film. B/C if Elsa literally becomes a goddess at the end of Frozen 2 where do you go from there as far as antagonists/conflicts? Unless you introduce other antagonistic spirits/gods. And then it turns into a shonen anime, where we end up with a bunch of overpowered characters trying to one up each other.

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