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Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:08 am
by Disney's Divinity
"Loyal, Brave, and True" is the only thing I would root for from this atrocity. I will definitely check out Yifei Liu's version of "Reflection" once it ends up on YouTube.

I don’t know if anyone else saw South Park’s premiere other day, but they took the piss out of Disney’s selling-out to China yet again (one thing that happened is—and this can be offensive, so be warned before reading—they showed Mickey Mouse in China having sex with the bat that caused the Coronavirus. :lol: ). They even mentioned the new Mulan, which is the main reason I put this here. :P

EDIT: SNL mocked the lack of songs and Mushu during Weekend Update the other day, too. :lol: Bowen Yang is hilarious, btw. I hope he has a long career.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:29 pm
by Sotiris
Disney's Divinity wrote:SNL mocked the lack of songs and Mushu during Weekend Update the other day, too. :lol: Bowen Yang is hilarious, btw. I hope he has a long career.
I caught that too. "No songs, no Mushu, no $30 from me, Disney+." :D

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:30 pm
by Sotiris
Nielsen's top 10 streaming programs for Aug. 31-Sept. 6 are below, with the prior week's rank in parentheses.

1 (2). Cobra Kai (Netflix), 2.17 billion minutes viewed
2 (1). Lucifer (Netflix), 1.42 billion
3 (nr). The Boys (Amazon), 891 million
4 (3). The Office (Netflix), 843 million
5 (7). Criminal Minds (Netflix), 675 million
6 (8). Shameless (Netflix), 639 million
7 (nr). Away (Netflix), 631 million
8 (7). Grey's Anatomy (Netflix), 616 million
9 (4). The Legend of Korra (Netflix), 541 million
10 (nr). Mulan (Disney+), 525 million
Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live- ... ing-top-10
Disney+'s movie Mulan, which made the top 10 for its opening weekend, fell out in the week of Sept. 7-13.
Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live- ... ing-top-10

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:54 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Getting out-performed by old shows like The Legend of Korra and Grey's Anatomy. :lol: In its defense, it looks like nothing else from Disney+ is on that list, so I guess they just don't have the kind of base Netflix and other streaming platforms have, period.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:50 am
by blackcauldron85
blackcauldron85 wrote:Chinese Audiences Who Don’t Want Disney’s Live-Action ‘Mulan’ Get A New Option: Animated ‘Kung Fu Mulan’
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-fil ... 96752.html
China’s own Kung Fu Mulan takes on Disney and becomes another 2020 flop
https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/art ... -2020-flop
the film turned into an even bigger flop than the Disney epic.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:15 pm
by Sotiris
Perhaps it would have been better if they hadn't responded at all. They're just making it worse by trying to defend themselves.

Disney Defends ‘Mulan’ Credits That Thanked Chinese Government Entities Involved in Human Rights Abuses
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/disn ... 234798833/

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:07 pm
by Disney's Divinity
I've read that "Loyal, Brave, and True" has become the highest-charting solo Christina single since "Not Myself Tonight." I'm happy for the song because the vocal is really nice and the bridge / ending make me tear up.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:45 pm
by WarriorDreamer
Anyone think that Lieu was slightly too old for Mulan at 31 since Mulan was actually 16 in the original film or do you think that wasn't an issue??

(Added note.) Mulan being an awkward teenager was part of her charm. She was figuring everything out and went on a journey. Here she was already a graceful, superheroic, accomplished martial artist. :(

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:59 pm
by Sotiris
It's interesting that Disney believes Chinese audiences are these ultra-conservative, traditionalist people when in reality they are much more progressive and sophisticated than Hollywood gives them credit. The creators of Kung Fu Mulan pointed that out too.
It might surprise foreigners to hear that Luo’s team sought to highlight Mulan’s individuality above all, going against the stereotype that China only values the collective. “In many versions, Mulan’s slogan is ‘I will bring honor to my family,’ but we wanted to explore what she herself wants beyond that sense of responsibility,” Luo said. “Young people here today really value individuality, so we emphasized that.”

Speaking to Variety before the Disney live-action film’s global debut, Gold Valley COO Allen Tsang elaborated on this point, saying that it’s outdated to think young Chinese would be attracted to old-school rhetoric about “duty” and “honor.”

“Americans feel that we want to see the most traditional version of ‘Mulan,’ but when you look at [recent blockbuster animations] ’Nezha’ or ‘Monkey King: Hero is Back,’ it’s clear that what we want is to update old stories and connect them more to what’s contemporary and the modern lives of young people.”
Source: https://variety.com/2020/film/news/mula ... 234788906/

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:16 am
by Disney's Divinity

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:56 am
by DisneyFan97

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:30 am
by Disney's Divinity
Yeah, it's a shame. Dumbo doesn't deserve to be quite that low.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:14 pm
by Sotiris
Disney's Divinity wrote:I've read that "Loyal, Brave, and True" has become the highest-charting solo Christina single since "Not Myself Tonight."
According to Billboard, the new "Reflection" is higher at #20 whereas "Loyal, Brave, True" is at #24 on the Digital Song Sales chart.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:15 pm
by Sotiris
‘Mulan’ Challenges Asian Americans in Hollywood to Overcome ‘Impossible Duality’ Between China, U.S.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/disn ... 234805159/

Lulu Wang and Adele Lim on Lessons From ‘Mulan’: Why Hollywood Must Reimagine Asian-Inspired Stories
https://variety.com/2020/film/features/ ... 234813651/

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:53 pm
by Disney's Divinity
Sotiris wrote: According to Billboard, the new "Reflection" is higher at #20 whereas "Loyal, Brave, True" is at #24 on the Digital Song Sales chart.
That's good news. :D The info I posted was taken from a music forum. I think it was in reference to some chart called Adult Contemporary / Hot AC. The "Reflection (2020)" release didn't have its own thread there, but it might be doing better on that chart than "Loyal, Brave, and True," too.

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:16 pm
by Sotiris
‘Mulan’ Tops FandangoNow, Vudu Charts
https://www.mediaplaynews.com/mulan-top ... du-charts/

‘Mulan’ Tops Vudu Chart, ‘Love and Monsters’ Leads FandangoNow Chart
https://www.mediaplaynews.com/mulan-top ... now-chart/

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:16 pm
by Sotiris
Mulan is getting released on home video on November 10, 2020. All the extras featured on the Blu-ray are the same as the ones found on the digital release.

Standard Blu-ray.

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4K UHD Blu-ray.

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2-Movie Collection Blu-ray.

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Best Buy exclusive.

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Target exclusive.

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Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:29 pm
by Sotiris
Mulan ranked 6th in the most-watched SVOD movies of 2020.

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Source: https://variety.com/vip/data-borat-2-se ... 234823177/

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:14 pm
by Disney's Divinity
That seems low...? Looking at the list, I would think it would've cracked top 3. I guess nobody would watch it a second time. :lol: #NotMyMulan

Re: Mulan (Live-Action)

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:58 am
by Atlantica
I just think it wasn't a very enjoyable movie then really ? That's the only explanation. It wasn't received very well, the reviews were pretty awful ( or just branded it dull ), and it had no buzz about it. There was not one person who I knew who was upset that the release date was pushed back and back, then onto Disney+. I'm sure it will be watched when it's on Disney+ as part of their catalogue, but to pay the additional cost, it was a firm no from me.

And I love the animated Classic Mulan too, this one just wasn't my vibe I don't think.