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Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:26 pm
by estefan
FigmentJedi wrote:Wouldn't it be great if Dini's revisions turned out to be an ending where it's revealed that the whole film has just been Maleficent lying through her teeth and she was just always evil?
I actually got that vibe from the recent trailer, that she is really manipulative and making King Stefan seem badder than he actually is.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:57 pm
by Musical Master
Here's the japanese trailer (aka: International Trailer) in english.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Lg6uRMzo4[/youtube]

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:23 am
by Tristy
Musical Master wrote:Here's the japanese trailer (aka: International Trailer) in english.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Lg6uRMzo4[/youtube]
"My wish is that she'll never be blue."


LindaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:17 am
by Old Fish Tale
The way she says the "I too shall bestow a gift on the child" line is just so weird. Everything else sounds fine.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:10 am
by Sotiris
Tristy wrote:"My wish is that she'll never be blue."
LindaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
rotfl That line is so awful and cringe-worthy it's actually hilarious.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:23 am
by Vlad
Musical Master wrote:Here's the japanese trailer (aka: International Trailer) in english.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Lg6uRMzo4[/youtube]
I love it! So nice to see they included some new footage as well.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:25 am
by Musical Master
Sotiris wrote:
Tristy wrote:"My wish is that she'll never be blue."
LindaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
rotfl That line is so awful and cringe-worthy it's actually hilarious.
Well it's a better line than....

"I did not hit her it's not true, it's bull***t, I did not hit her. I did not. Oh hai Mark"! :P

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:51 pm
by Disney Duster
Am I the only one who thinks, since in this film Maleficent is the one who curses Aurora to sleep until true love's kiss...that Maleficent should say death-like sleep, not sleep-like death? I mean...she's not dead, she's asleep.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:18 pm
by Atlantica
My mouth popped open slightly when she said the never be blue line....I mean, come on...really? REALLY?

Other than that, lovely trailer!

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:33 pm
by MeerkatKombat
Musical Master wrote:
Sotiris wrote: rotfl That line is so awful and cringe-worthy it's actually hilarious.
Well it's a better line than....

"I did not hit her it's not true, it's bull***t, I did not hit her. I did not. Oh hai Mark"! :P
Yeaaaa-eeeeh! Another Room fan. Or not...depending on how you feel about that movie.
I tilt my plastic spoon at you sir (or madam).

(Sorry! Off topic but I couldn't ignore it)

"My wish is that she'll never be blue" - bad bad script writing.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:50 pm
by Musical Master
^I enjoy the epic awfulness of The Room for about everything in it. :P

But I disagree that "My wish is that you'll never be blue" is bad screenwriting at all, it could be worse..

"Mother! You're alive!"

"To bad, YOU! Will die.."

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:14 pm
by MeerkatKombat
Lisa: Did you get your promotion?
Johnny: Nah.
[pause]
Lisa: You didn't get it, did you?
That really is bad screenwriting courtesy of The Room.

I'm still in 2 minds about seeing this. My boyfriend is up for it and I'm slowly coming around but I can't deny some stuff I've read on this thread totally puts me off. Sleeping Beauty is one of my favorites and I don't think I could be satisfied with the supposed story change.
FigmentJedi wrote:Wouldn't it be great if Dini's revisions turned out to be an ending where it's revealed that the whole film has just been Maleficent lying through her teeth and she was just always evil?
I like this idea. I could get behind this idea. Be a good twist.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:52 pm
by lord-of-sith
Don't forget, those who have read the script, that the "she'll never be blue" line is a reference to that fairy accidentally turning a woman blue earlier in the film. I'm gonna guess that moment has stayed, hence the awkward line phrasing. In the script, before she said that line, she looked back at the blue woman, who was in attendance. In that sense it makes the line...funny?

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:18 pm
by Musical Master
lord-of-sith wrote:Don't forget, those who have read the script, that the "she'll never be blue" line is a reference to that fairy accidentally turning a woman blue earlier in the film. I'm gonna guess that moment has stayed, hence the awkward line phrasing. In the script, before she said that line, she looked back at the blue woman, who was in attendance. In that sense it makes the line...funny?
That was a strange bit of humor from the leaked script, but I think the kids could laugh at that though. :|

From the reports and trailers that we have seen so far, it's clear now about who exacty wrote these scenes: John Lee Hancock re-wrote the beginning parts during reshoots, as for Linda Woolverton and Paul Dini, they both wrote everything else. I read a comment on this board on why Linda Woolverton is a hack, and I'm like... not really. Sure her scripts for Alice and the leaked version of Maleficent weren't great but they both could've been so much worse (I'm looking at you Melissa Rosenberg and Uwe Boll who are the dictionary pictures of the biggest screenwriting HACKS in Hollywood history).

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:54 pm
by Fflewduur
Musical Master wrote:I read a comment on this board on why Linda Woolverton is a hack, and I'm like... not really.
Yeah--not really. Hacks don't usually get Oliviers, or Tony nods.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:02 pm
by Musical Master
Fflewduur wrote:
Musical Master wrote:I read a comment on this board on why Linda Woolverton is a hack, and I'm like... not really.
Yeah--not really. Hacks don't usually get Oliviers, or Tony nods.
I'm not defending her at all, in fact I agree with some that she's been overrated amongst the company and some people who think that her screenplay to Beauty and the Beast was what helped it become a classic when it was obviously not the case.

But there are far, FAR WORSE writers in Hollywood on my list and Woolverton isn't among them, I'm on the "meh" scale with her.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:36 pm
by Fflewduur
We're going to have to disagree, I think. In my opinion, Beauty is the best-authored of the so-called Renaissance films, and the quality of the script is one of the reasons it got a Best Picture nod.

But you're certainly entitled to your opinion. (I'd also rather do Sondheim or Kander & Ebb than pretty much anything in the Rodgers & Hammerstein canon, so--de gustibus non est disputandum.)

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:40 pm
by Musical Master
Fflewduur wrote:We're going to have to disagree, I think. In my opinion, Beauty is the best-authored of the so-called Renaissance films, and the quality of the script is one of the reasons it got a Best Picture nod.

But you're certainly entitled to your opinion. (I'd also rather do Sondheim or Kander & Ebb than pretty much anything in the Rodgers & Hammerstein canon, so--de gustibus non est disputandum.)
But what about Howard Ashman, Roger Allers, Brenda Chapman, Chris Sanders, Joe Ranft and so many others who were story people on Beauty? Sure Linda did write the screenplay but that could be changed in an animated movie by the story people (which is why Linda and Roger were in some fights about the story, which Peter Schnider made them work in the same room together and when Linda came to work with Allers and Chapman she saw how the story process was done, she began to understand how it worked and then she felt afterwards like she was a part of it, so no bad Disney blood was spilt after that).

But Paul Dini and Linda worked together on the revisions for Maleficent which (from the trailers) already looks better than the leaked script from 2 years ago.

EDIT: At first I thought your post was a sarcastic one, my apologies. I think Woolverton should write a screenplay of her own book: Running Before the Wind. That way she can avoid the hate and scorn of fans of the works she did adaptations on.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:31 am
by WillytheDino
New TV-spot.

"Oh dear" - HER ACCENT!!!

And by the way, this commercial spoils the fact that the king is 'the bad one'. I have seen enough of footage by now, I just hope Disney will not release a lot more and spoil the entire movie.

Re: Maleficent (2014): Official Discussion

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:47 am
by FigmentJedi
I see the new TV Spot is being honest about what they're ripping off.