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Behind the Scenes of Pixar's 'Brave'.

Pictured here are director Mark Andrews, director Brenda Chapman and co-director Steve Purcell relaxing on a grassy hill during the company's research trip to Scotland in 2006.

So there are three directors? I thought it was just Mark Andrews and Brenda Chapman (who left the project amid production).

jediliz wrote:Still not interested in this...just like I refused to see 'UP'

Really? Why did you refuse to see Up?

DisneyFan09 wrote:

jediliz wrote:Still not interested in this...just like I refused to see 'UP'

Really? Why did you refuse to see Up?

Because presumably s/he's an idiot.

I'm impressed with Merida after seeing that movie clip/trailer. I look forward to seeing this film!

enigmawing wrote:I fail to understand the concept of how any one particular gag seems to automatically turn any modern Disney film into a Shrek wannabe.

Ditto. The father moons people because he's elated by his son's success. There's people in real life who do silly things to celebrate achievements of friends and family members all the time.

Dr Frankenollie wrote:

DisneyFan09 wrote:Really? Why did you refuse to see Up?

Because presumably s/he's an idiot.

Precisely.

Dr Frankenollie wrote:

DisneyFan09 wrote: Really? Why did you refuse to see Up?

Because presumably s/he's an idiot.

Come on now. There was no need to be so insulting.

And bragging about having refused seeing a critically acclaimed movie for seemingly no apparent reason in a thread that doesn't even mention it isn't insulting? Isn't that a bit, I dunno, trollish in of itself?

And continuing with the Shrek like jokes, Toy Story 3 had a fecal matter joke...

Mr. Potato Head: "And a couple of Lincoln logs!"

Hamm (while showing a disgusted face): "Eeeeeh, I don't think those were Lincoln logs..."

And a pee joke...

Lotso: "Watch out for the puddles..." (It could have been water, but since the puddles were located near the bathrooms...)

And let us not forget the joke in which Barbie tries to get Buzz's instruction manual wearing Ken's astronaut suit, and Glow Worm looked at her heels and shrugged thinking Ken would wear high heels... Draw your own conclusions from there.

AND TOY STORY 3 IS ONE OF THE BEST REVIEWED MOVIES OF 2010 AND WAS NOMINATED FOR AN ACADEMY AWARD FOR BEST PICTURE!

So yeah, Toy Story 3 was "more of a Shrek film" and people still loved it because it had a great story and a lot of heart. The crass jokes did not eclipse it in any way, so the mooning joke in Brave shouldn't do it either.

Sky Syndrome wrote:I'm impressed with Merida after seeing that movie clip/trailer. I look forward to seeing this film!

enigmawing wrote:I fail to understand the concept of how any one particular gag seems to automatically turn any modern Disney film into a Shrek wannabe.

Ditto. The father moons people because he's elated by his son's success. There's people in real life who do silly things to celebrate achievements of friends and family members all the time.

I think the problem with this gag has nothing to do with Shrek, but that almost EVERY instance where a man wears a kilt has at least one mooning gag.

Seems even Pixar can't resist the occasional slapstick cliches.

Semaj wrote:

Sky Syndrome wrote:I'm impressed with Merida after seeing that movie clip/trailer. I look forward to seeing this film!
Ditto. The father moons people because he's elated by his son's success. There's people in real life who do silly things to celebrate achievements of friends and family members all the time.

I think the problem with this gag has nothing to do with Shrek, but that almost EVERY instance where a man wears a kilt has at least one mooning gag.

Seems even Pixar can't resist the occasional slapstick cliches.

That has always been the case with Pixar. Even if their record is almost spotless when it comes to stories, some of the humor is pretty "classic" so to speak. For example, the bloopers on both A Bug's Life and Toy Story 2 feature an instance of farting and burping, jokes that were very in at the time. Then there were the jokes I mentioned earlier on Toy Story 3. In Up the dogs kept saying that Carl smelled like prune juice, the stereotype being that old people like to drink prune juice.

But the way I see it, as long as those jokes are just brief instances of humor rather than the whole focus I am fine. The difference is that in Shrek THAT'S the whole point. Shrek is a disgusting character, therefore he does disgusting things over and over again. I admit that's why I don't think so highly of the first movie, even though it has been hailed as one of the best movies ever made.

EDIT: And I can openly confirm that the kilt joke has been extended to the real world. I attended an Irish themed wedding in which the groom wore a kilt. His friends them grabbed him, pulled up his kilt, lowered his underwear and mooned everyone in the room.

So yeah... it's a cliched joke both in film and the real world

I know this is a not farting or burping but there is the joke in the first Toy Story where Mr. Potato Head accuses Slinky of being an ass-kisser by repeatedly kissing his lips on his butt.

pap64 wrote:But the way I see it, as long as those jokes are just brief instances of humor rather than the whole focus I am fine. The difference is that in Shrek THAT'S the whole point. Shrek is a disgusting character, therefore he does disgusting things over and over again. I admit that's why I don't think so highly of the first movie, even though it has been hailed as one of the best movies ever made.

The first Shrek I didn't mind, and it seemed like their crude humor was DreamWorks (rather, Jeffery Katzenberg) letting off steam after trying to copy Disney's success for so long (not unlike what Warner Bros. and MGM did back in the 1940s), also because of a grudge Katzenberg had against Eisner. But for a long time after Shrek II, the overtly crude humor was all they cared about anymore.

pap64 wrote:EDIT: And I can openly confirm that the kilt joke has been extended to the real world. I attended an Irish themed wedding in which the groom wore a kilt. His friends them grabbed him, pulled up his kilt, lowered his underwear and mooned everyone in the room.

The only fail there was the fact he was wearing underwear in the first place. Unsurprisingly, I do know Scots people. The two I do know that wear kilts more than once per year don't have anything underneath. Swift dose of mind bleach helped the first time I asked if it was true about... et cetera... phew...

pap64 wrote:I admit that's why I don't think so highly of the first movie, even though it has been hailed as one of the best movies ever made.

I don't think it's ever been called one of the best movies ever made, but it's definitely overrated, and also rather dated.

Dr Frankenollie wrote:

pap64 wrote:I admit that's why I don't think so highly of the first movie, even though it has been hailed as one of the best movies ever made.

I don't think it's ever been called one of the best movies ever made, but it's definitely overrated, and also rather dated.

At the very least, it has been hailed as one of the best modern animated movies. It ranked rather highly on the AFI's top ten best animated movies, and whenever modern animation is brought up, Shrek is the first one to be mentioned.

I agree, I like the movie, especially back when it first premiered, but now it does feel dated, and considering how DreamWorks ran the franchise to the ground the movie just doesn't seem that special anymore.

pap64 wrote:At the very least, it has been hailed as one of the best modern animated movies. It ranked rather highly on the AFI's top ten best animated movies, and whenever modern animation is brought up, Shrek is the first one to be mentioned.

Fair enough, although in years to come I think Pixar's films will be remembered much more than something like Shrek or Shark Tale. It definitely won't hold up for future generations.

Sotiris wrote:

Merida is going to be in the Princess Line wether she has a significant other or not.However,I do see her get along quite well with the other princesses mainly with Mulan and Rapunzel.

Are you guys saying that Brave will be a flop?

TsWade2 wrote:Are you guys saying that Brave will be a flop?

It won't be a flop espically if the feminists go for a princess that is an action girl and doesn't get a significant other.They will surely stay for the mother/daughter relationship that drives the whole story.