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I am wondering if this upgrade is really worth it.

Matt wrote:I am wondering if this upgrade is really worth it.

From the clip of the "Wizards of Special Effects" on the Disney website...and the spiffy new cover...I'll definitely be double-dipping...

Cordy_Biddle wrote:

Matt wrote:I am wondering if this upgrade is really worth it.

From the clip of the "Wizards of Special Effects" on the Disney website...and the spiffy new cover...I'll definitely be double-dipping...

i've also noticed that the length of the movie is 117 minutes and the old DVD has the time for 139 Minutes long. What is the difference?

Matt wrote:

Cordy_Biddle wrote: From the clip of the "Wizards of Special Effects" on the Disney website...and the spiffy new cover...I'll definitely be double-dipping...

i've also noticed that the length of the movie is 117 minutes and the old DVD has the time for 139 Minutes long. What is the difference?

117 minutes represents the standard cinema cut of "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" (the one seen on video and on TV right up until 2001); the 139 minute version restores a lot of the deleted musical numbers ("Flourish and a Flair", "Nobody's Problems") and additional scenes which were cut prior to the movie's premiere.

Cordy_Biddle wrote:

Matt wrote: i've also noticed that the length of the movie is 117 minutes and the old DVD has the time for 139 Minutes long. What is the difference?

117 minutes represents the standard cinema cut of "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" (the one seen on video and on TV right up until 2001); the 139 minute version restores a lot of the deleted musical numbers ("Flourish and a Flair", "Nobody's Problems") and additional scenes which were cut prior to the movie's premiere.

Ahhh, so the movie itself is a good reason to pick this up.
Hopefully Disney does a special savings for this lol.

Cordy_Biddle wrote: 117 minutes represents the standard cinema cut of "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" (the one seen on video and on TV right up until 2001); the 139 minute version restores a lot of the deleted musical numbers ("Flourish and a Flair", "Nobody's Problems") and additional scenes which were cut prior to the movie's premiere.

I thought it was the Portobello Road scene that got extended. I remember it being much shorter before it was released to DVD in 2001.

I think I'm not going to bother double-dipping on this one. I'll wait and see what the UD reviewers have to say about it and compare it with the 30th anniversary edition that came out in 2001.

Barbossa wrote:

Cordy_Biddle wrote: 117 minutes represents the standard cinema cut of "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" (the one seen on video and on TV right up until 2001); the 139 minute version restores a lot of the deleted musical numbers ("Flourish and a Flair", "Nobody's Problems") and additional scenes which were cut prior to the movie's premiere.

I thought it was the Portobello Road scene that got extended. I remember it being much shorter before it was released to DVD in 2001.

I think I'm not going to bother double-dipping on this one. I'll wait and see what the UD reviewers have to say about it and compare it with the 30th anniversary edition that came out in 2001.

Yes, the "Portobello Road" sequence is also extended on the 139 minute cut. What's also good about the extended cut is the development and arc of the Roddy McDowall character who really didn't seem as part of the story in the 117 minute version.

Matt wrote:I am wondering if this upgrade is really worth it.

It depends on if you want to rebuy basically the same disc as 2001, except with new cover art, a lack of disc art, and a new 8-minute featurette.

Also, regarding the 117/139 minute discrepancy, from memory, here's what's re-instated:

-Scene between Captain Greer & Mrs. Hobday, it precedes "The Old Home Guard"

-Brief scene of the soldiers dispersing at the end of "The Old Home Guard"

-Mrs. Hobday asking Reverend Jelk about the vicar.

-Carrie talks about Aunt Bessie and why they had to move to the country.

-Charlie says "Mango Wuzzle"

-Reverend Jelk hops about at Eglantine's front door and tries to start a conversation, but she slams the door on him after he gives her the letter.

-Paul's first attempt at the bedknob didn't work (he forgot to tell it where to go)

-"With a Flair" (the theatrical version only presents the dialogue portions, all the lyrics are cut out)

-Eglantine explains what Substitutiary Locomotion is to Professor Browne.

-Eglantine's song "Don't Let Me Down" (in the middle of "Eglantine", itself cut a bit as well)

-A few lyrics and several dance sequences in "Portobello Road" are re-instated (during one segment, the sequence comes from a workprint as it was the only film footage that survived, you can easily notice the difference in quality, especially the reds).

-Swinburne complains about pushing the bed.

-Professor Browne and Charlie go to the shop and talk with Mrs. Hobday, Reverend Jelk spies on them.

-Eglantine sings "Nobody's Problems" after Professor Browne leaves.

albert

Escapay wrote:

Matt wrote:I am wondering if this upgrade is really worth it.

It depends on if you want to rebuy basically the same disc as 2001, except with new cover art, a lack of disc art, and a new 8-minute featurette.

Also, regarding the 117/139 minute discrepancy, from memory, here's what's re-instated:

-Scene between Captain Greer & Mrs. Hobday, it precedes "The Old Home Guard"

-Brief scene of the soldiers dispersing at the end of "The Old Home Guard"

-Mrs. Hobday asking Reverend Jelk about the vicar.

-Carrie talks about Aunt Bessie and why they had to move to the country.

-Charlie says "Mango Wuzzle"

-Reverend Jelk hops about at Eglantine's front door and tries to start a conversation, but she slams the door on him after he gives her the letter.

-Paul's first attempt at the bedknob didn't work (he forgot to tell it where to go)

-"With a Flair" (the theatrical version only presents the dialogue portions, all the lyrics are cut out)

-Eglantine explains what Substitutiary Locomotion is to Professor Browne.

-Eglantine's song "Don't Let Me Down" (in the middle of "Eglantine", itself cut a bit as well)

-A few lyrics and several dance sequences in "Portobello Road" are re-instated (during one segment, the sequence comes from a workprint as it was the only film footage that survived, you can easily notice the difference in quality, especially the reds).

-Swinburne complains about pushing the bed.

-Professor Browne and Charlie go to the shop and talk with Mrs. Hobday, Reverend Jelk spies on them.

-Eglantine sings "Nobody's Problems" after Professor Browne leaves.

albert

When you put it like that scaps NO lol

Now up is UD's Review of Bedknobs and Broomsticks: Enchanted Musical Edition

It's an excellent read but in a nutshell, don't bother getting the new edition if you have the old one. And if you value bonus features as much as the film, get the old one, not the new one. This "Enchanted Musical Edition" loses the galleries, film facts, and two bonus shorts, cuts down "Music Magic: The Sherman Brothers" by about 9 minutes, and the only new material is the 7.5 minute "Wizards of Special Effects" and the Sprouse Twins pimpin' Blu-Ray to the viewers.

I'm passing. Bedknobs and Broomsticks deserves better than this, dammit. Disney, you really f__ked it up this time.

albert

Eeewww... The press release led us to believe that the "Wizards of Special Effects" featurette would be more substantial than 7 minutes long (guess the clip on Disney's website was the meatiest portion of it?); and the shortening of the Sherman Brothers featurette is a bit sad, too.

Unless I see this disc significantly discounted on Amazon I'll pass for the moment.

Didn't I say this was a pass in the first part of the thread? lol I was right! I do want the slip cover though

Maybe I could get the old DVD for a decent price on Amazon.

Matt wrote:Didn't I say this was a pass in the first part of the thread? lol I was right! I do want the slip cover though

Well, I really wanted to believe that Disney would make this a no-brainer upgrade purchase. Shame...

I'm glad that I kept my old DVD! I don't understand Disney. How do they decide which movies to rerelease in worthwhile-to-upgrade DVDs, and which to rerelease in less-features-than-the-last DVDs? Like, The Sword in the Stone and Bedknobs and Broomsticks got the shaft, while Pete's Dragon, and, at least to me, The Aristocats, Robin Hood, and The Fox and the Hound [I almost typed "The Fox in the Hound, but I guess that sequel comes later. Hopefully not, though. ] got at least somewhat-better (or in the case of Pete's Dragon, much better) bonus feautres. I don't get it, Disney!

But, nice review, Luke!

Escapay wrote:I'm passing. Bedknobs and Broomsticks deserves better than this, dammit. Disney, you really f__ked it up this time.

albert

It does indeed and this is very disappointing considering the legitimate upgrades to Pete's Dragon that new DVD brought us.

Can you do something good for Bedknobs in 2011 Disney?

about the DVD's mediocre quality. It's really out of line, especially since Disney did (what seems to be) a reasonably good job on Pete's Dragon. I wasn't exactly going to rush down to the shops to replace my old copy, but I probably won't even bother at all. Hopefully when Disney starts putting some of the lesser films on Blu-Ray, then we'll see a decent rerelease, on both formats. Same with...oh, nevermind, I have too many to list. And whilst I'm not against Blu-Ray, isn't having a plug for it on a DVD which doesn't even have a Blu-Ray counterpart a bit...well...excessive?

I just got finished watching this movie. I enjoyed it. Not one of my favorites. Some parts are SOOO boring lol. This did bring back a lot of childhood memories though.

On the plus side, the inevitable future BLu-ray release will likely have a completely new master. Who knows when that is, though? I'll say 2016, at least.

ajmrowland wrote:On the plus side, the inevitable future BLu-ray release will likely have a completely new master. Who knows when that is, though? I'll say 2016, at least.

What? That long?