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Maybe someone with some good video editing skills could make a new version of the trailer that includes scences from the all the classic princess movies instead....

Disney Duster, I fully agree with you when it comes to the fluidity of the animation. As you said, I do believe it is animatied at the full 24 frames per second, and the painstaking work pays off, as all the movement is silky smooth.

However, you are dead right in saying that the scene with the prince shooting up looks rather bad. I thought the exact same thing when I saw the trailer. Besides the frame rate, I think it might also be a case of "clumsy". "unrefined" animation.

One more thing. You mentioned that the vortex looked very bland in the Disney Movie Surfers clip. I noticed that aswell! Not only that, but some of the animation seems to have been changed, or refined. The witch pushing Giselle into the well is now more convincingly animated, and the witch's facial features sport more detail. I strongly believe that the animation we saw in the DMSC was unfinished animation. Though I can't understand why they'd scan the unfinished animation into the computer and present it for the DMSC, that's what seems to have happened. For more evidence, look at the witch at the beginning of the DMSC, when she appears to be talking to Giselle, and note that her movements are jerky, like she's missing a lot of animation frames. The animation we've just seen in the trailer is much smoother!

PS: I just emailed KRS Film Distributors Malta, to ask if they know when the film is going to be released in my country. I hope I get a reply. Living in Europe, you're never sure whether you might have to wait extra to see a movie. For all I know, Enchanted may be released here in 2008 instead of 2007.

Well? Is someone going to respond to my above genius observations!? You people are too enthusiastic! Get moving!!

The official "Enchanted" website has been launched.
Not much on there just the trailer and a summary. But I thought you'd like the link

http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/enchanted/

This look like it has potential but I have two problems.

I wish the characters remained animated while in the real world (ala Roger Rabitt).

I hate romantic comedies (I even hate the unisex ones like Wedding Crashers), and I hope this film doesn't feel like a romantic comedy. I know there will be romance and comedy, but I don't want this to feel like a Julia Roberts/ Hugh Grant movie.

according to Gamespot there's a game based on the film,it's out for DS and GBA (yay,GBA ),i think this gonna be like the Cinderella and Little Mermaid GBA games and ds will be like The Little Mermaid ds game.
and something very great-there's also a new Disney Princess game for PS2,WII and DS (finally they're getting consle game).
and did anyone notice every year disney are put a main princess in the center of the marchandias? look-
2005-Cinderella.
2006-Ariel.
2007-Giselle.
2008-Aurora.
2009-Rapunzle.
2010-Tania (from The Princess and the Frog).
2011-Snow white (????).
2012-Belle (???).
2013-Jasmine (???).

Ariel'sprince wrote:2010-Tania (from The Princess and the Frog).

Tania?????
Isn't her name Maddy or sth like that?

Julian Carter wrote:Besides the frame rate, I think it might also be a case of "clumsy". "unrefined" animation.

You think so? Maybe, but he looks to be drawn so well I can't imagine that being the case.

Julian Carter wrote:You mentioned that the vortex looked very bland in the Disney Movie Surfers clip. I noticed that aswell! Not only that, but some of the animation seems to have been changed, or refined. The witch pushing Giselle into the well is now more convincingly animated, and the witch's facial features sport more detail. I strongly believe that the animation we saw in the DMSC was unfinished animation. Though I can't understand why they'd scan the unfinished animation into the computer and present it for the DMSC, that's what seems to have happened. For more evidence, look at the witch at the beginning of the DMSC, when she appears to be talking to Giselle, and note that her movements are jerky, like she's missing a lot of animation frames. The animation we've just seen in the trailer is much smoother!

I compared the trailer to the Movie Surfer clip, and the vortex is far more detailed in the trailer. Now, I'm not sure if that's because they detailed it later and it really wasn't finished in time for Movie Surfer's, or if it's that the Movie Surfer's clip was too bright to see the detail, since the vortex is bright as it is. The whole Movie Surfer's clip is too bright. And yea, the weird thing is, the animation looks okay at the well, it's only when we see the witch say, "I have a wedding gift for you" does she look really crappy! I hope that scene looks okay in the final film.

I'm not to sure about the witch being more convincingly animated or having more detail when she pushes Giselle. That looks exactly the same to me in the Movie Surfer's clip as the trailer, but maybe they chopped out a few frames when the did the clip, I don't know. But as far as detail, they look the same from what I can tell.

I hope you get the movie as soon as us! But not before us, you!

Disney has books coming out soon for the movie! They all are coming out September 25! The most interesting of all these books is "Enchanted: Before the Fall", which is all about Giselle's fairy tale life in her actual fairy tale land, before she went to New York! So we can learn about the enchanted land of Andalasia, all it's talking animals and magic.

Here's the link: Disney Books for Enchanted

But some of the book descriptions got me thinking. A lot ofhem say girls will love the story because they want to find love and a prince charming in the real world, just like Giselle. But isn't that just saying to girls, "Keep searching for your man! Fairy tales can work in real life!" That's perpetuating false hope, and once again it's dangerously close to saying every girl should want and needs a man.

AND on top of everything, does anyone else think Amy Adams is playing an unusually dumb princess? She didn't understand Patrick Dempsy's sarcasm, but Cinderella sarcastically said, "Should we interrupt the music lesson?" and raised her eyes at her stepsister's horrible singing, indicating far more intelligence than Giselle seems to have. The princesses aren't this dumb! And for that matter, I don't know if the princes are, either, James Marsdon...

Aladdin from Agrabah wrote:

Ariel'sprince wrote:2010-Tania (from The Princess and the Frog).

Tania?????
Isn't her name Maddy or sth like that?

they changed it becouse Maddy sound like Mommy,yeah,i know it's werid.
now they changed her name into Tania or something.

OMG that book looks cute! It makes her seem more like an official "Disney Princess" now too....

The pink dress! Ah, I was about to ask if the pink dress was actually being used in the movie, 'cause we've been seeing nothing but the Ariel wedding-dress poofy one. I wonder when she wears it, though (I guess when prince cheekbones saves her).

"Before the Fall" sounds... kinda biblical... O_o

I love beta stuff!
Wow, it is interesting how the efects aren't quite finished in that Movie Surfers clip. The animated bits also pass by so fast. The cuts are too fast for me to examine, say, the witch properly (I suppose because they hadn't done that much at that point). It'd be great if someone managed to capture bits to compare.

I LOVE the look of those books! Great find Disney Duster. But I would just like ot comment on a few things you mentioned.

* Regarding the subject of girls being subjected to needing a man in their life to make it complete, I was listening to the Cinderella III soundtrack the other day, and recalled Cinderella singing in 'Perfectly Perfect', I'm a princess and a wife, all because I fit a shoe! This would fit in with your theory Disney Duster that this is what Disney are effectivly telling young girls to aim for. That is their goal in life, just like Cinderella sings about.

* I agree with the Prince seeming overly stupid, but I don't think Giselle does. I have to admit, that Cinderella is the only one whom I can think of out of the Princesses that does express sarcasm as such. I just don't think the Princesses are very worldly. Like Ariel does not understand how to get a man, Sebastian has to tell her in his own words, 'You gotta batt your eyes like dis .. .. you gotta pucker up your lips, like dis .. ... You see? I am sure Snow White would not understand it, and I think Disney are trying to link the two of them, as Giselle makes many refrences to Snow White, i.e. the Grumpy dwarf refrence, the "I hear the the dwarves are very hospitible", and the ending of the trailer with the old crone and the apple.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on it.

Ariel'sprince wrote:

Aladdin from Agrabah wrote: Tania?????
Isn't her name Maddy or sth like that?

they changed it becouse Maddy sound like Mommy,yeah,i know it's werid.
now they changed her name into Tania or something.

The princess' name is Tiana.

atlanticaunderthesea wrote: * I agree with the Prince seeming overly stupid, but I don't think Giselle does. I have to admit, that Cinderella is the only one whom I can think of out of the Princesses that does express sarcasm as such. I just don't think the Princesses are very worldly. Like Ariel does not understand how to get a man, Sebastian has to tell her in his own words, 'You gotta batt your eyes like dis .. .. you gotta pucker up your lips, like dis .. ... You see? I am sure Snow White would not understand it, and I think Disney are trying to link the two of them, as Giselle makes many refrences to Snow White, i.e. the Grumpy dwarf refrence, the "I hear the the dwarves are very hospitible", and the ending of the trailer with the old crone and the apple.

Personally, I don't really see any of the princesses as stupid, just sheltered. Snow White isn't a moron, she's just too naive to know how to take care of herself because she's lived in a castle all her life (albeit as a maid). I think the same could be said for Ariel, too. She's not an idiot because she questions Triton at every turn (where he's usually being biased), but she also doesn't understand that there really are manipulative people out to use her. And even if you could call her unintelligent, at least she has ambitions ("I wanna know what the people know/Ask them my questions and get some answers!"). As for Jasmine, she comes across as a wise girl to me. A bit fiery sometimes, but she obviously understands the way most men's minds work. That's why she doesn't trust them easily.

With Aurora, on the other hand, I really don't see that there's anything to decide either way.

Disney's Divinity, I was not saying that they are stupid. Not once in my post do I say that! They are not very worldly, as I said. Which would fall in line with you thinking Snow White is sheltered. It means the same thing really.

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:I was listening to the Cinderella III soundtrack the other day

A real soundtrack?

Poody wrote:

atlanticaunderthesea wrote:I was listening to the Cinderella III soundtrack the other day

A real soundtrack?

Huh ? Sorry, I don't get what you mean!

I have the Cinderella III soundtrack, as I downloaded it.

Good observations, atlanticaunderthesea! The "princess and a wife" thing does make it sound like those things are so important. Maybe being a princess is an okay ambition, but if being married is that big a goal to someone, that might not be good. Because it's not always so easy to find someone who will love you like they should and actually be good for you, and you should not depend on the love of one person to make you happy.

Still, I may have been a little harsh in my theory that Disney is pushing women to find men. If that's true, it's also true that men are pushed to find women. Ariel risks her freedom and makes a deal with a witch to be with a man (Eric), but Prince Phillip risks his life and fights a dragon to be with a woman (Aurora). It's just that all the princess stories are romance-driven. Is the reason "boy films" aren't full of romance because little boys think romance (like kissing) is icky? And if so, is it because society thinks so, or do boys really hate romance without interference from the movies and shows they watch, the games they play, or the other men/boys they see?

In The Lion King, Simba's story is about finding his place, and regaining his title, while falling in love with Nala is a small thing. But in The Little Mermaid, even though Ariel wants to be part of a different world is a huge part of the story, falling in love with Eric is just as big a part.

I never thought of it, but there's romance in many more Disney films, not just the princess ones. The difference is the princess ones are almost all about that, but the other "boy" ones give the romance a small part.

Oh, and your theory that Giselle is based heavily on Snow White I agree with 100%! Very good observations! That must be why she's so naive, she even acts like Snow White when telling the animals to "tidy up."

[quote="Disney Duster"]Good observations, atlanticaunderthesea! The "princess and a wife" thing does make it sound like those things are so important. Maybe being a princess is an okay ambition, but if being married is that big a goal to someone, that might not be good. Because it's not always so easy to find someone who will love you like they should and actually be good for you, and you should not depend on the love of one person to make you happy.

Still, I may have been a little harsh in my theory that Disney is pushing women to find men. If that's true, it's also true that men are pushed to find women. Ariel risks her freedom and makes a deal with a witch to be with a man (Eric), but Prince Phillip risks his life and fights a dragon to be with a woman (Aurora). It's just that all the princess stories are romance-driven. Is the reason "boy films" aren't full of romance because little boys think romance (like kissing) is icky? And if so, is it because society thinks so, or do boys really hate romance without interference from the movies and shows they watch, the games they play, or the other men/boys they see?

In The Lion King, Simba's story is about finding his place, and regaining his title, while falling in love with Nala is a small thing. But in The Little Mermaid, even though Ariel wants to be part of a different world is a huge part of the story, falling in love with Eric is just as big a part.

I never thought of it, but there's romance in many more Disney films, not just the princess ones. The difference is the princess ones are almost all about that, but the other "boy" ones give the romance a small part.
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Disney Duster,just becouse Cinderella is a princess and a wife that dosn't mean that she has to be stargiht,she can be a lesbian wife but that dosn't matter.
Disney explain that love is what impertant and love to a guy or a girl,it dosn't matter,Disney just don't show lesbain or homo couples so the perents won't be angry.
take Flower from Bambi:he's gay but Disney the perents willl be angry so they officialy that he's gay.

atlanticaunderthesea wrote: Huh ? Sorry, I don't get what you mean!

I have the Cinderella III soundtrack, as I downloaded it.

Is it recorded off the DVD, meaning... it has all the sound effects in there?