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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:25 pm
by MagicMirror
I'm pretty sure most people think of the book, and the Tenniel illustrations, before moving on to the many adaptations.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:56 pm
by Flanger-Hanger
I hope John Hoffman was be the Mad Hatter like he was in Adventures in Wonderland, he was so good in that role.

John: How true that is! :lol: (although the odds of this happenign are slim to none)

I'm also hopping the White Knight and Jaberwocky are in this film, mainly the latter because I'm sure Burton could really make him something special.

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:50 pm
by TheNikki
This sounds amazing. I can only imagine how awesome this movie would be.

I wouldn't mind it being a bit darker than the original version, well not too dark though.

I can just see the visuals being fantastic and I think Anna Sophia Robb would be a perfect Alice, she's very beautiful in that gothic way and I think that's the tone the movie would take.

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:28 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
Stop-Motion Animation would be better, like The Nightmare Before Christmas

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:30 pm
by Skellington or Sparrow
SwordInTheStone777 wrote:Stop-Motion Animation would be better, like The Nightmare Before Christmas
YESSSSS! oh my god.. yes it would! gosh..
now i'm pissed off they aren't doing that.

i'm still seeing it though..

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:44 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
Stop-Motion would mean that movie wouldn't be out till 2011.

Stop-Motion takes awhile to do, about 2 years tops I think?

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:50 pm
by rs_milo_whatever
it would be worth the wait

if the're not making it stop-motion because of the wait we won't have the quality film we could have gotten and miss the perfect oportunity to have a worthy film; i doubt that's the reason why they're making the film like this, i think its because they want to try something different

Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:13 pm
by Disney Duster
The thing is, stop-motion is being used on Tim's own remake of Frankenweenie into a full-length film! But the stop-motion will differentiate this more form the original live-action short film.

If his Alice was also stop-motion animated, though, then we would have two Disney animated Alices.

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:17 am
by Jack Skellington
Tim Burton already ruled out stop-motion animation when he said that the movie is going to look like Beowulf.

Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:44 am
by Disney Duster
Jack Skellington wrote:Tim Burton already ruled out stop-motion animation when he said that the movie is going to look like Beowulf.
Which one, Alice or Frankenweenie?

I forgot Alice is going to have live-action and motion capture animation all in one (which would mean it won't look exactly like Beowulf, more likely just the weird creatures and talking flowers or animals will look like it). But hopefully none of it looks like Beowulf, because that looked like very good video game animation, that once again gives off a creepy or souless vibe.

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:32 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
I rather have it be 3D or traditional 2D animation. Having it look like Beowulf would ruin it in my opinion, so I rather see 3D or hand drawn.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:56 am
by Jack Skellington
The decision to make Alice in Wonderland look like Beowulf probably means that we could catch that movie in Imax 3D once it's out.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:11 am
by SwordInTheStone777
I geuss so, but I hope it dosen't ruin the film though. Alice in my opinion is better off either live action or animated. Actually when it comes down to it I'm happy seeing Alice as it's orginal 1951 masterpiece, and nothing else, except the the one from either the 70's or 80's done by Irwin Allen (The Poseidon Adventure).

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:50 am
by 2099net
I was searching for something else, but came across this post from long long ago about sequels.
long long ago I wrote:Alice in Wonderland 2: Alice in Bedlam

Unfortunately, Alice decided to tell all her family and friends about her strange time in Wonderland. However, in mid 18th century Britain, refined young women were not allowed to talk about odd smoking caterpillars, size changing mushrooms, vanishing grinning cats or singing walruses and carpenters. However, a bigger crime is that all of her accounts of her time in Wonderland are incredibly episodic and even when all the accounts she tells are collected and placed in order, they have no relationship to each other at all; thus convincing everyone that she is delusional.

Reluctantly, her family signs the paper. Alice is sent to Bedlam – the infamous asylum. There locked away night and day with nobody for company Alice begins to hallucinate again. However, this time her delusions are cruel mockeries of her enforced captivity.

Now the size changing mushrooms simply make her bigger and bigger, emphasising her confinement as she has to squeeze into her cell, or they make her so small that nobody can hear her when she attempts to protest her sanity. The grinning Cheshire Cat is dressed like the asylum guards, as it teases and torments her, always beaming with pleasure at her misery. The Mad Hatter and Mad March Hare are fellow inmates, encouraging her to descend even deeper into madness.

Finally, she hallucinates having her head chopped off by the Queen of Hearts, while at the same time she is undergoing a lobotomy by the asylum's head doctor.

The film ends with Alice slouched in the corner of her cell, drool escaping from her lips and a happy smile on her face, as she vaguely remembers her exciting time in Wonderland.
Now to me, that sounds more like a Burton film.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:01 am
by SwordInTheStone777
2009net wrote:
I was searching for something else, but came across this post from long long ago about sequels.

long long ago I wrote:
Alice in Wonderland 2: Alice in Bedlam

Unfortunately, Alice decided to tell all her family and friends about her strange time in Wonderland. However, in mid 18th century Britain, refined young women were not allowed to talk about odd smoking caterpillars, size changing mushrooms, vanishing grinning cats or singing walruses and carpenters. However, a bigger crime is that all of her accounts of her time in Wonderland are incredibly episodic and even when all the accounts she tells are collected and placed in order, they have no relationship to each other at all; thus convincing everyone that she is delusional.

Reluctantly, her family signs the paper. Alice is sent to Bedlam – the infamous asylum. There locked away night and day with nobody for company Alice begins to hallucinate again. However, this time her delusions are cruel mockeries of her enforced captivity.

Now the size changing mushrooms simply make her bigger and bigger, emphasising her confinement as she has to squeeze into her cell, or they make her so small that nobody can hear her when she attempts to protest her sanity. The grinning Cheshire Cat is dressed like the asylum guards, as it teases and torments her, always beaming with pleasure at her misery. The Mad Hatter and Mad March Hare are fellow inmates, encouraging her to descend even deeper into madness.

Finally, she hallucinates having her head chopped off by the Queen of Hearts, while at the same time she is undergoing a lobotomy by the asylum's head doctor.

The film ends with Alice slouched in the corner of her cell, drool escaping from her lips and a happy smile on her face, as she vaguely remembers her exciting time in Wonderland.


Now to me, that sounds more like a Burton film.
That sounds just disturbing. Burton wouldn't do something like that, Disney would deem it to scary, that and Burton could get fired again like he was after making Frankenwinee.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:42 am
by Sky Syndrome
I look forward to seeing this! 8)

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:42 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
I don't think Alice is going to be like what 2009net wrote. I think it's going to combine both the orginial novel and some elments of the Disney Classic.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:51 pm
by SpringHeelJack
SwordInTheStone777 wrote:I don't think Alice is going to be like what 2009net wrote. I think it's going to combine both the orginial novel and some elments of the Disney Classic.
Well, duh. 2099net was just writing their idea. And why do you think it will combine some Disney elements? The novels are dense enough as is.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:24 pm
by SwordInTheStone777
All Alice In Wonderland version I have seen have had some refrences or homage to the Disney Animated Classic, so I'm just thinking they would do the same for this version too.

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:58 am
by Jack Skellington
I read somewhere that Walt disney never really liked his version of Alice in Wonderland, why is this ? :?