Snow White (Live-Action)

[Pokenonbinary]

Nobody complained about her acting. People complained about her beeing a stup*id, talking bad things about the original film and taking part about Palestine and Israel conflict

She literally just made a few tweets and instagram stories about an ongoing genocide, she's not even a real activist like Mark Ruffalo who goes to protests

[Disney's Divinity]

No offense, Pokenonbinary, but you're only going to make people hate her even more by acting the way you do towards everyone. People aren't convinced to like someone or something by hostile means most of the time. And nobody's going to be intimidated out of posting their actual opinions for your sake either.

[Sotiris]

Reminder to everyone not to bring up politics in Disney topics. If you wish to discuss the Israel/Gaza conflict or any other political matter, you can create a thread in the Off-Topic section.

[D82]

The covers for the Live Action Novelization and a tie-in novel inspired by the film titled Snow White: Fair & Sinister Heart have been revealed:


Source: https://www.amazon.com/Snow-White-Live- ... ref=sr_1_1



Source: https://www.amazon.com/Snow-White-Fair- ... ref=sr_1_1

One moment eighteen-year-old Snow White is taking a bite of an apple. The next, she blinks and finds herself in an enchanted and dangerous dream world. As it turns out, the Queen’s poison did more than place Snow White in an eternal sleep. It sent her subconscious to the Land of Diamant, a world crafted from gems and home to the Queen’s most sinister creations.

After meeting some of the others cursed by the Queen, Snow White realizes the only way to save the people trapped in Diamant and her kingdom back in the real world, is to embark on a quest to find the mythical Ruby Heart.

Snow White and her new friends must work together as they face deadly trials on their journey. But there is something more wicked than the creatures made of gems, and the true danger could be closer than anyone thinks. Snow White will need to be careful, because in Diamant, nothing is what it seems.

Source: https://prhinternationalsales.com/book/ ... 1368097710

[Pokenonbinary]

This is good, we have like 50 snow white movies so it's a good thing to change the story after so many versions

[Farerb]

This is not the plot of the movie, just this book. Disney loves publishing official "fanfics" for their movies.

[Pokenonbinary]

This is not the plot of the movie, just this book. Disney loves publishing official "fanfics" for their movies.

Sometimes the kid books tell the entire story

I can see them adding this diamond dimension thing to the movie to make the movie more action oriented and glowy CGI scenes

[Thumper_93]

This is not the plot of the movie, just this book. Disney loves publishing official "fanfics" for their movies.

Sometimes the kid books tell the entire story

I can see them adding this diamond dimension thing to the movie to make the movie more action oriented and glowy CGI scenes

They have never done that. They always release novels inspired in the universe where the LA movie takes place. They did it with BATB, TLM and even with Cinderella and none of the things frome this books appeared in the movie. One thing is the movie novelization and another one the books that we are talking about. They are not the same.

[Disney's Divinity]

Even if they were going to change everything about the film, which is a terrible idea for a remake (since it is a remake and not a new adaptation or twist film), that story is stupid. Maybe a good idea for a SW video game though.

[Disney Duster]

They always release novels inspired in the universe where the LA movie takes place. They did it with BATB, TLM and even with Cinderella and none of the things frome this books appeared in the movie.

I bought the two movie novelizations of the Live-Action Cinderella, and I do not remember a new story inspired in the Cinderella universe that was not in the film! Please tell me of this book, if you are not mistaken, because there was a long novelization and a shorter one, maybe you thought one of them was a new story.

[Thumper_93]

They always release novels inspired in the universe where the LA movie takes place. They did it with BATB, TLM and even with Cinderella and none of the things frome this books appeared in the movie.

I bought the two movie novelizations of the Live-Action Cinderella, and I do not remember a new story inspired in the Cinderella universe that was not in the film! Please tell me of this book, if you are not mistaken, because there was a long novelization and a shorter one, maybe you thought one of them was a new story.

Sorry I was wrong with one of the novelizations from the movie!

[Disney Duster]

Oh, it's ok Thumper!

[Pokenonbinary]

I don't get why people want another carbon copy of Snow White, she's the princess with most versions

Even of other countries, there's even a black and white Spanish movie where Snow White is a bullfighter

[Disney Duster]

No, Pokenonbinary, Cinderella is the princess with the most versions of her story. If you Google what is the most used story, it is Cinderella. Her story is so simple and able to be adapted to anything, there are many modern versions with an underdog gaining success in addition to the more faithful fairy tale versions.

The 2015 Cinderella remake was well-received by critics and audiences and was a mild hit, and that was what you would probably call "a carbon copy" of the fairy tale. So if that was a good movie people liked, the same can happen for Snow White. Beauty and the Beast was an even more carbon copy of the original film, and that was the second most successful remake, as it was a huge hit.

Unfortunately, even if this was a carbon copy of the 1937 Snow White, the casting and general wokeness make this so bad in execution it looks like this will not be good like Cinderella or Beauty and the Beast were.

[Farerb]

Rachel Zegler on Reinventing Snow White and Juliet and Facing Off Against Toxic Disney Fans: ‘I’ve Watched Women Get Torn Down My Whole Life’

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/rach ... 236160365/

[carolinakid]

The first comment in the comment section says it all...
“She’s very unlikable.
She will doom Snow White.”

Amen, amigo!
(but we knew that...)

[PatchofBlue]

I've spoken out many times before about how troubled I was by the blowback Zegler has received over the whole Snow White saga and genuinely hope she is able to move past all that, and I stand by that.

That said, I don't think the PR team here is really grappling with how much in poor taste it was for her to use her platform to basically throw the fandom under the bus by reinforcing all those ill-founded reads of the animated film. Neither do I think they're being totally honest with the press. They say that there was always--no really, ALWAYS--going to be a love story, but ... that doesn't totally connect with multiple things that are one the record, nor the tone with which Zegler was discussing them.

From the Variety article,

She grows somber recalling the hate that erupted during that time. “In all honesty, it made me sad that it was taken in such a way, because I believe that women can do anything. But I also believe that they can do everything,” Zegler says. What she’d meant to convey was that Snow White wants romance but has other goals too.

“I would never want to box someone in and say, ‘If you want love, then you can’t work.’ Or ‘If you want to work, then you can’t have a family.’ It’s not true. It’s never been true. It can be very upsetting when things get taken out of context or jokes don’t land,” Zegler says. “The love story is very integral. A lot of people wrote that we weren’t doing [that storyline] anymore — we were always doing that; it just wasn’t what we were talking about on that day.”

From 2022

The Snow White from the 1930s cartoon is very much written in the male gaze. She is wishing for her prince to come and take her away from the life that she's living, take her away from her reality. That's not the case in this one. Very similarly to the way Maria was reimagined for West Side Story by Tony Kushner, there's more agency here. There's a lot more active choice-making. I really love that about this script. The focus is not on the love story. It's not on wishing for a prince to come or 'I'm wishing for the one I love'. It's nothing like that and I really, really love that because I think that's something that a lot of young people need to see.

I could dive further into the thread and maybe find some more, but I just don't think Zegler's theater-kid energy can really account for all the distortion they're saying was happening. Hercule Poirot might swoop in one of these days and make it all make sense, but I'm just seeing too many contradictions right now.

Incidentally, I had guessed the namesake would be something like this, even before it became clear they were raceswapping Snow White.

As for that line about “skin as white as snow,” Zegler reveals that the new film has its own origin story for her name. “It fell back to another version of ‘Snow White’ that was told in history, where she survived a snowstorm that occurred when she was a baby,” she says. “And so the king and queen decided to name her Snow White to remind her of her resilience. One of the core points in our film for any young woman or young person is remembering how strong you actually are.”

[Disney Duster]

Couldn't Zegler's past comments just meant the love story just wasn't the only focus, and that it wasn't going to be done the same way. Doesn't that fit this interview?

And hey, if you guessed about the name, is it in this thread somewhere, PatchofBlue?

[PatchofBlue]

This is the quote that really has me scratching my head.
 
https://youtu.be/9tyxeuN4hBo

Rachel: We have a different approach to what I'm sure a lot of people assume is a love story just because we cast a guy in the movie, Andrew Burnap, great dude. It's one of those things I think everyone's gonna have their assumptions about what it's actually going to be, but it's really not about the love story at all, which is really really wonderful, and whether or not she finds love along the way is anybody's guess until 2024, all of Andrew's scenes could get, who knows? It's Hollywood, baby. But it's an inner journey that she goes on to find her true self and she meets a lot of people along the way that make the journey really incredible.

I'll own up the speculation at work here, but this just really reads like Zegler was teasing that Andrew Burnap's character wasn't originally shot as Snow's romantic counterpart. I don't think they would play coy about it like this unless they were initially going to spring this on us. But since no one literally went on Oprah to tell the world, "No, there is no love story," they can just add that in during reshoots and no one can contradict them.

And an additional example of her talking down about the 1937 film and Disney Princess culture as a whole,

"It's an iconic cartoon, it's 85 years old, and Marc Webb, our director, is so dedicated to making a hero princess for his daughter," Zegler told the Associated Press. "I really love that sentiment and I hope it get echoed for all eternity when we make live-action versions of these Disney cartoons, where women are seen as a little bit less than the male characters. I think it's possible to be both a princess and a hero, and I like to be both."

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/snow- ... ey-remake/

Like, are they really going to try to gaslight us into thinking that Zegler had respect for Disney Princesses all along? What exactly is the context that we are missing in which her comments were actually building up the brand the whole time?

I suppose that given how deeply they dug themselves in a hole with this one, they didn't really give themselves a lot of graceful options. Backtracking is their only way out. But that doesn't mean I'm going to let the discrepancies go unacknowledged.

Anyways, I won't give myself so much credit to say that I had it in writing that I knew they would change the origin of her name (I also wasn't posting on this board until well after Zegler was cast anyways), but I just privately thought that whether or not LA Snow White was raceswapped, it might just be a good look to not fetishize her white skin in the text itself, and I had known other interpretations of the fairy-tale had found other explanations. Not that I think the fairy-tale as writ is inherently racist, it just felt like a potential for controversy that could have been sidestepped, which they did.

[Thumper_93]

What can we say about her? The interview is silly and she only shows how uneducated she is. The comment about NY's diversity is stupid. In Europe you have as much diversity as you want and you can also speak spanish because there is lots of people from Spain working in other countries.
She could perfectly be the daughter of Jennifer Lopez and Emma Watson. A fake feminist that only knows to talk about how proud she is for have Spanish heritage.
Honestly I don't like to mix personal life with the character but in this case it is very hard to not do it. Disney should talk with her because she's harming her own movie.
Halle had a much better behavior and she received more hate from social media.