Tiana (Disney+ Series)

[Thumper_93]

I don't believe that transforming this series into a movie is a good idea. Tiana doesn't have so much fandom behind as Moana does. Moana's franchise is very succesful. Kids and adults love her universe and they know that they can have a great box office transforming the series into a movie.
However I love Tiana. The art style of the film is amazing, they did a great job with the character design and I think that it has this old Disney feeling that we all love. The story from the film is a little boring in some parts but that's because they are frogs lot of time. They have the chance to change that in this series and I can't wait to see it! I just hope that they don't loose the style or character's personality like they did with Disenchanted.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

I don't believe that transforming this series into a movie is a good idea. Tiana doesn't have so much fandom behind as Moana does. Moana's franchise is very succesful. Kids and adults love her universe and they know that they can have a great box office transforming the series into a movie.
However I love Tiana. The art style of the film is amazing, they did a great job with the character design and I think that it has this old Disney feeling that we all love. The story from the film is a little boring in some parts but that's because they are frogs lot of time. They have the chance to change that in this series and I can't wait to see it! I just hope that they don't loose the style or character's personality like they did with Disenchanted.

It doesn’t matter. The only way to make Tiana hand-drawn again is to make Moana 2 a huge box office smash worldwide that will turn it into a movie once Disney sees it was the right call to make the Moana series into a movie. That will make them put more money and budget into it to make it hand-drawn. That’s the only way to save Tiana’s traditional animated style.

Besides, should the series become a movie maybe they’ll delay it to 2029 to give it more time to get the hand-drawn animators back and not overwork the animators as they did on Moana 2

[Kyle]

Stop it. Thats not how any of this works.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Stop it. Thats not how any of this works.

Actually, I argue it is.

[PatchofBlue]

In my experience, studio heads are very stubborn beasts. Even when you do lay a trail of crumbs for them to follow, they very seldom choose to leave their nest. You should not do something simply because you think it might lead them to make a better decision. Their aspirations are seldom so high.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

In my experience, studio heads are very stubborn beasts. Even when you do lay a trail of crumbs for them to follow, they very seldom choose to leave their nest. You should not do something simply because you think it might lead them to make a better decision. Their aspirations are seldom so high.

Well either way, we have an opportunity, our probably last opportunity, to give Tiana a chance to make it the last chance of bringing Disney back to doing hand-drawn animated long-form projects if we make Moana 2 successful enough to convince Disney to turn Tiana from a series into a film for the big screen. And I’d rather take that chance rather than leave it to waste, and I think you all should too.

So, either we make Moana 2 successful enough globally to turn Tiana into a bigger-budgeted, fully 2D/hand-drawn animated movie or we continue to do nothing to even try to bring it back and let it die before it even got a chance to come back.

It’s time to go with the former and stop doubting it can happen. We must hope it can otherwise we’ll be dooming Disney Animation to be stuck with computers forever.

[PatchofBlue]

There's absolutely nothing to guarantee, or really even suggest, that this is how Disney would respond to Moana 2 being a hit. And I'd remind everyone that it's still not set in stone whether Tiana will be hand-drawn, CG, or something in between. These are just contingencies upon contingencies. Go see Moana 2 in theaters if you think you will enjoy the film, but no one's doing themselves any favors by imagining that it will revive an artform that's been dead at Disney for fifteen years.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

There's absolutely nothing to guarantee, or really even suggest, that this is how Disney would respond to Moana 2 being a hit. And I'd remind everyone that it's still not set in stone whether Tiana will be hand-drawn, CG, or something in between. These are just contingencies upon contingencies. Go see Moana 2 in theaters if you think you will enjoy the film, but no one's doing themselves any favors by imagining that it will revive an artform that's been dead at Disney for fifteen years.

More like in a coma, if you ask me.

[Thumper_93]

Disney already knows that Moana 2 is goign to be a hit because it's one of their best seller franchises. Turning the movie into a hit doesn't guarantee anything about transforming Tiana's series into a movie neither of making it in 2D. Moana's series was transform into a movie because they need a quick and easy box office hit.
If they would have wanted to make Tiana in traditional 2D animation then they would have done it. We don't know which style is going to have so let's wait and see. Also I'm not a huge fan of transforming series into movies because in a tv series you have much more time to develope everything. Let's give them a chance and see what they can offer.

[Kyle]

More time isn't always a good idea, look at obi wan. It would have made a better movie than a series because of all the lame filler. And fans have proven this with fan edits. Pacing is key.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

More time isn't always a good idea, look at obi wan. It would have made a better movie than a series because of all the lame filler. And fans have proven this with fan edits. Pacing is key.

So who’s to say Tiana would be better as a series than a movie when it could go either way and we can’t really make a judgement yet until we see footage?

[Pokenonbinary]

I don't think Disney cares about Tiana at all, they will probably try to make a subsaharan African princess in the style of Black Panther (very pan-africanist I mean) before making a sequel to Tiana

But honestly the two times we got black princesses (3 times if you include Kida from Atlantis) they didn't got good box office results

It's a very weird idea but why not make a MCU-Disney collaboration and make a Shuri princess of Wakanda movie, Merida from Brave is from Pixar but at the same time Disney style princess

[Thumper_93]

More time isn't always a good idea, look at obi wan. It would have made a better movie than a series because of all the lame filler. And fans have proven this with fan edits. Pacing is key.

So who’s to say Tiana would be better as a series than a movie when it could go either way and we can’t really make a judgement yet until we see footage?

Tiana was released 15 years ago. She's not so popular as Rapunzel and between the Disney princesses she's not one of the most popular. Not everybody remember her and not much kids from these new generations have seen her movie. Releasing another movie of Tiana in theaters would be a disaster because "The princess and the frog" is not one of Disney's greatest hits. Disney knows that and that's why they deceided to make a tv show instead of a theater release.
If Disney is using Tiana right now is because all the Black lives matters movement. Before that Tiana didn't appear in much merchandise. After that they started to use their non-white princesses in their merchandise more often. You can even see that the Splash mountain re-theme is not as popular as they expected.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

So who’s to say Tiana would be better as a series than a movie when it could go either way and we can’t really make a judgement yet until we see footage?

Tiana was released 15 years ago. She's not so popular as Rapunzel and between the Disney princesses she's not one of the most popular. Not everybody remember her and not much kids from these new generations have seen her movie. Releasing another movie of Tiana in theaters would be a disaster because "The princess and the frog" is not one of Disney's greatest hits. Disney knows that and that's why they deceided to make a tv show instead of a theater release.
If Disney is using Tiana right now is because all the Black lives matters movement. Before that Tiana didn't appear in much merchandise. After that they started to use their non-white princesses in their merchandise more often. You can even see that the Splash mountain re-theme is not as popular as they expected.

I find this subjective when her movie arguably made profit while Tangled struggled to break even and if they delayed Tiana as a film changed from a series by 5 years to 2029 for TP&TF’s 20th Anniversary, that could help the film’s fortunes at the box office for the better.

[Thumper_93]

Sorry but I still believe that turning this into a movie wouldn't be a great idea. It is not a best seller franchise, the character is not as popular as the rest of the princesses and the film is not as beloved as Tangled, Frozen or Moana. This franchise needs more than an anniversary to become popular enough to have a sequel in theaters.
Risk money in a second movie of TPATF is a risk that Disney can't take right now and less if it means to make a 2D movie again.
If they want to make 2D movies again in theaters then they should make a good story and not a sequel. This is the good way to see if people still want to see this form of animation on theaters.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Sorry but I still believe that turning this into a movie wouldn't be a great idea. It is not a best seller franchise, the character is not as popular as the rest of the princesses and the film is not as beloved as Tangled, Frozen or Moana. This franchise needs more than an anniversary to become popular enough to have a sequel in theaters.
Risk money in a second movie of TPATF is a risk that Disney can't take right now and less if it means to make a 2D movie again.
If they want to make 2D movies again in theaters then they should make a good story and not a sequel. This is the good way to see if people still want to see this form of animation on theaters.

They could do both, and also they don’t have to take that risk now, hence why I said it could release in 2029.