Snow White (Live-Action)

[Thumper_93]

Let's see how this thing ends but I think that this could be the end of the LA films.

There's not much they can do after Snow White, Lilo and Stitch, Moana and Hercules anyway. Only their second tier films from the 70s-80s and the 2000s and I don't think anyone is really interested in them. They'll probably do Princess and the Frog and Tangled by the end of the decade.

They decided to make Moana so I wouldn't be surprised if they would decide to make TPATF or Tangled.

[veu]

I don't think I know a single person who is excited for this film. Even given the contentious discourse around the Disney remakes as a whole, and even given the politics around racebending a Disney Princess, everyone I know or interact with is either checked out of the conversation or outright repulsed by it. I'd find that validating, except that I'm certain the collateral will have long-term effects on Disney, and probably not the kind dedicated Disney fans will find encouraging.

I'm very excited for this film. I can't wait to see it and I think the teaser trailer is very good and visually beautiful.
I think there's a lot of negativity about this movie because Snow White (1937 not only the remake) is the movie people in the new woke era or social justice warriors want to criticize because this is their sport.
Snow White is a very good story, Disney know what is doing with this movie.

I don't write too much on this forum because I'm tired to read people who complein ever and ever and ever when Disney release something about Snow White.
I don't understand: when Disney is doing something about Snow White all people on this forum complain about it , when Disney is doing something about Beauty and the Beast or Cinderella all people is crying out of a miracle. During the 2000s sequel era all people was in love for B&B, Cinderella, Lion King, TLM, during live action era all people was in love when disney announced news about B&B, Cinderella, Lion King (at the beginning also TLM, when disney announced a black actress all people complained about it). When Disney try to do something about Snow White all people is complain about it. Why?
I don't think Snow White is untouchable because also Cinderella has the same legendary aura and during 90s also B&B and Lion King assumed this aura.
I remind myself that Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella have millions of adaptations (animated and live action), a lot more than Snow White.
Disney isn't only B&B, Cinderella, Lion King, there's also a lot of other properties which are interesting and good and Snow White is a property very interesting.
Yes, the 1937 movie is great, it's a masterpiece and I love 1937 movie (it's one of the first movies I've seeing when I was child) but I admit it's a little dated, beautiful and all, but dated (it's a movie created in a time in which the world was completly different), so I really appreciate the idea of Disney to do another version.
I want to tell you a thing: I know a teacher of an elementary school who told me children today don't know Snow White at all, they know all other Disney princesses but not Snow White. My friend was shocked. She discover that parents think Snow White is too old so they don't show Snow White. (Cinderella is more popular because the 2000s sequel movies and the live acton movie)
Live action movie could help people to discover again old Snow White.

My idea about the trailer and the movie itself is in the same line of what Tsom said on previous pages.

[veu]

There's not much they can do after Snow White, Lilo and Stitch, Moana and Hercules anyway. Only their second tier films from the 70s-80s and the 2000s and I don't think anyone is really interested in them. They'll probably do Princess and the Frog and Tangled by the end of the decade.

They decided to make Moana so I wouldn't be surprised if they would decide to make TPATF or Tangled.

both Tangled and Princess and the Frog could be interesting. I'd like to see Tangled with a visual style which remember Glen Keane's idea based on Fragonard and Rembrandt paintings.
I think also Frozen could have a LA adaptation.
Honestly I think Tangled could be more interesting in LA than Moana

[Pokenonbinary]

This means anything when the people disliking the video are not even the target audience for the movie? Like are reddit and 4chan dudebros a big number of people paying to see disney princesses live action movies?

The same argument was made when the live-action Little Mermaid trailer got disliked into oblivion and the film did end up underperforming.

The little mermaid made almost 300M domestically, while it underperfomed overseas the domestic box office was excelent

There's not much they can do after Snow White, Lilo and Stitch, Moana and Hercules anyway. Only their second tier films from the 70s-80s and the 2000s and I don't think anyone is really interested in them. They'll probably do Princess and the Frog and Tangled by the end of the decade.

They decided to make Moana so I wouldn't be surprised if they would decide to make TPATF or Tangled.

Moana live action only exists because Black Adam was a flop and then James Gunn took the DC boss job and rebooted everything, so Dwayne Johnson plans of being Black Adam for years were finished

That's ALSO why he made a cameo in Fast X and will have a big role in Fast 11 and will have another Hobbs and Shaw movie

He had to go back to his succesful projects real Fast

I'm sure The Rock is giving a big chunk of the budget from his own money to convince Disney to make the live action less than 10 years after the original

[Thumper_93]

TLM box office was a flop. They expected a box office like Aladdin's or BATB and the movie did it well but not so good as they wanted. Cinderella made almost the same numbers in 2015 with a less know cast, less budget ($95M). TLM had a $240.2M of budget. To be a success it should have made three times it budget.
As I said they expected much more. You only have to see all the merchandise, books, accesories and all the stuff that they released. It was the LA film with more merchandise released till the date and even with that it couldn't meet expectations.

[D82]

Actress Lorena Andrea, who played one of Ariel's sisters in the live-action remake, has been added to the cast list on IMDb. Fans have also noticed Emilia Faucher, who plays the young version of Snow White, follows her on Instagram, so there are rumors Lorena might be playing Snow White's mother in the film.

[Vlad]

I was also thinking of this. After Snow White, they will release Lilo & Stitch and Moana. Do they have a release date for Hercules too?

Anyway, if they will make any other remakes or sequels to their existing remakes, they will probably bring them to Disney+.

[Disney Duster]

TLM box office was a flop. They expected a box office like Aladdin's or BATB and the movie did it well but not so good as they wanted. Cinderella made almost the same numbers in 2015 with a less know cast, less budget ($95M). TLM had a $240.2M of budget. To be a success it should have made three times it budget.
As I said they expected much more. You only have to see all the merchandise, books, accesories and all the stuff that they released. It was the LA film with more merchandise released till the date and even with that it couldn't meet expectations.

Yes, the only reason The Little Mermaid remake made any more than the Cinderella remake was because there was a lot of inflation between 2015 and 2023.

[Pokenonbinary]

TLM box office was a flop. They expected a box office like Aladdin's or BATB and the movie did it well but not so good as they wanted. Cinderella made almost the same numbers in 2015 with a less know cast, less budget ($95M). TLM had a $240.2M of budget. To be a success it should have made three times it budget.
As I said they expected much more. You only have to see all the merchandise, books, accesories and all the stuff that they released. It was the LA film with more merchandise released till the date and even with that it couldn't meet expectations.

I agree with you, I'm just saying that domestically the movie was succesful

298M in domestic is a great number, the bad thing is how it was received overseas

But also the good part is that studios get more money domestically than overseas, so 300M domestically is stronger money than 300M from China (where they get just 25% of the money)

Still they wanted at least 800M since Ariel is the most popular princess (not counting Frozen that is recent)

How would have been the box office with a big actress like Zendaya (like the rumours said)

Zendaya is honestly very whitepassing (when I used to see Shake It Up as a kid I though she was a brown skinned mediterranean woman and not a half black woman, she would have been better received racially than Halle Bailey in my opinion)


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Actress Lorena Andrea, who played one of Ariel's sisters in the live-action remake, has been added to the cast list on IMDb. Fans have also noticed Emilia Faucher, who plays the young version of Snow White, follows her on Instagram, so there are rumors Lorena might be playing Snow White's mother in the film.

Lorena Andrea looks a lot like Rachel Zegler so good casting.

What could they do? Make Lorena a foreigner married to a germanic king or the kingdom is now mediterranean since Gal Gadot is also mediterranean?

I prefer if they talk about those things instead of just pretending the movie is set in old Germany

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I was also thinking of this. After Snow White, they will release Lilo & Stitch and Moana. Do they have a release date for Hercules too?

Anyway, if they will make any other remakes or sequels to their existing remakes, they will probably bring them to Disney+.

Hercules seems like a dead project, it has been many years announced and nothing yet, it's not like Tangled that it was never officially announced and its just rumours

Also the Russo Brothers said they wanted to make the movie like Tiktok????? Wtf????

Btw if they make a Hercules live action I hope its faithful to a Graeco-Roman/mediterranean origin, the real Hercules is already a diverse story they don't need to do the disney diversity thing

[Disney's Divinity]

I wouldn't say TLM was a "flop," but it just barely broke even. I know Pokenonbinary is obsessed with talking about Wish underperforming as a tit for tat for TLM's failure (not because they care about Wish at all, they're just here to stir arguments...), but you can't pretend one failed and the other one was a massive success. I admit it made me laugh reading those reports about how they spent 50 million to make Ariel's hair looking slightly redder (and not really succeeding), they could've used that money when it got tight there. Either way, the film absolutely would've made in the 900 million - 1 billion range like the other Fab Four if they hadn't decided to play a game with the movie. Thankfully the finished product is still good overall, but I will never feel sorry that Disney got what they deserved for all of that. Same with Mulan, they got what they deserved, except Mulan is unwatchable unlike TLM.

Snow White is a different story. I would never expect that one to do more than around 500-600 million even in the best case scenario and this definitely isn't the best case scenario... I mean, why is Israel even being talked about in relation to Snow White?? And there's no denying Zegler has an unbearable personality outside the film, that wasn't the case with other actors cast in previous racebent roles (Bailey, Erivo, etc.). My best advice for Disney would've been to make sure to keep the budget as small as possible with this, but Sotiris said a page or so back (or maybe it was somebody else?) that the budget is already around 400 million or something? I would be surprised for Disney to get any silver lining out of this film's performance, I expect this one to lose money. And I feel sorry for Gal Gadot being involved in this as much as I did for Bailey / McCarthy on TLM, being a part of these remakes is a terrible choice for any actor these days considering it's nothing but nonstop drama that Disney themselves likes to play into. At least Gadot is making the best choice any actor could do in the situation and saying as little as possible, waiting for this film to be out and done with.

I don't think the remakes are done. I still think Aladdin 2 may come about, dependent on how Mufasa turns out. Hercules is a similar situation to SW where they need to play all their cards right just to have it be a moderate success. Then there's Moana and (eventually) Frozen, both of which should be successful; I would think L&S would be successful, too, maybe not as much as those two would be. TP&TF which is probably another situation like Hercules, I'm not sure if it would be theatrically released or streaming only, but hopefully the former. And it's the same way for Tangled, that film could be a moderate success even though it's not as remembered or as popular as Moana and Frozen--they'd probably have to title it Rapunzel for people to know what it is. Maybe in a decade, they'll do Encanto.

[Disney Duster]

Still they wanted at least 800M since Ariel is the most popular princess (not counting Frozen that is recent)

Actually, I have found an image that suggests Cinderella is the most popular princess. I found it from this Defending Every Disney Princess (except Tiana) video:


And another image, though it is from the 2013:


But I have heard from various people inside that sources say Cinderella's merchandise sells the most. I know on Shop DIsney or Disney Store online, whatever it is, that Elsa, Ariel, and Belle I believe have more merchandise than Cinderella, but apparently more of her stuff is actually bought. Now, my one friend says they think Ariel is more popular but Cinderella is bought more because she is prettier, and you can wonder any reason why Cinderella is bought more, but the fact is, she is bought more.

I wouldn't say TLM was a "flop," but it just barely broke even. I know Pokenonbinary is obsessed with talking about Wish underperforming as a tit for tat for TLM's failure (not because they care about Wish at all, they're just here to stir arguments...), but you can't pretend one failed and the other one was a massive success. I admit it made me laugh reading those reports about how they spent 50 million to make Ariel's hair looking slightly redder (and not really succeeding), they could've used that money when it got tight there. Either way, the film absolutely would've made in the 900 million - 1 billion range like the other Fab Four if they hadn't decided to play a game with the movie. Thankfully the finished product is still good overall, but I will never feel sorry that Disney got what they deserved for all of that. Same with Mulan, they got what they deserved, except Mulan is unwatchable unlike TLM.

I think you are right. If The Little Mermaid remake had been closer to the original movie, especially in visuals, but also by not making some bad decisions like no music till "Part of Your World" and cut songs and bloating, and other bad stuff, it would have made as much as, like, Beauty and the Beast, because The Little Mermaid's original film is just so popular.

[UmbrellaFish]

I was really surprised to see Snow White so high up among eBay earnings. I imagine, though, that a lot of Snow White’s listings on eBay are high priced antiques, which could skew the data.

[Disney Duster]

I suspect Snow White sells a lot to adults because of her "the first one" important and classic status. I know her movie was one of the very highest sellers on video, though I don't know about its 4K, because Disney has not been releasing anymore old classics on 4K, sadly. When will we get them?!

[WarriorDreamer]

I wonder if Moana will do better than Snow White.

Think people are being just a tiny bit harsh on Rachel. You have to wait to see a performance, people can surprise you.

[DisneyFan09]

I truly hope there`s going to be a "Art of-book" from this remake. Or at least a magazine about the behind the scenes and the legacy of Snow White. After all, Snow White is a cornerstone of the company. And the live action remakes of Walt`s features who were released theatrically used to receive their "Art of"-books.

[Patricier21]

I truly hope there`s going to be a "Art of-book" from this remake. Or at least a magazine about the behind the scenes and the legacy of Snow White. After all, Snow White is a cornerstone of the company. And the live action remakes of Walt`s features who were released theatrically used to receive their "Art of"-books.

Oh really, because I don’t recall seeing many art of books of the remakes except for the 2019 ones: Dumbo, Aladdin and lion king

[Thumper_93]

I truly hope there`s going to be a "Art of-book" from this remake. Or at least a magazine about the behind the scenes and the legacy of Snow White. After all, Snow White is a cornerstone of the company. And the live action remakes of Walt`s features who were released theatrically used to receive their "Art of"-books.

Did The Little Mermaid get one? If this movie didn't have an art book I honestly doubt that they are gonna make one for this one. A mixed book with the animated one and this one would be great option but there actually are some books about the classic so I doubt that they are going to make something similar to what they did with Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty.

I wonder if Moana will do better than Snow White.

Think people are being just a tiny bit harsh on Rachel. You have to wait to see a performance, people can surprise you.

Nobody complained about her acting. People complained about her beeing a stup*id, talking bad things about the original film and taking part about Palestine and Israel conflict. I love her in West Side Story and she really made agreat job in The Hunger Games but the truth is that She's not likable for a big part of the public.
Obviously there is another part of the audience that simply don't like her because she's not so accurate to the original Snow White but there's nothing that you can do to avoid that. It's the same problem that other actors had before like Robert Pattinson when he was announced as the new Batman.

[DisneyFan09]

I truly hope there`s going to be a "Art of-book" from this remake. Or at least a magazine about the behind the scenes and the legacy of Snow White. After all, Snow White is a cornerstone of the company. And the live action remakes of Walt`s features who were released theatrically used to receive their "Art of"-books.

Did The Little Mermaid get one? If this movie didn't have an art book I honestly doubt that they are gonna make one for this one. A mixed book with the animated one and this one would be great option but there actually are some books about the classic so I doubt that they are going to make something similar to what they did with Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty.

No, unfortunately Mermaid didn`t get a new art book. It even didn`t get it`s own edition of from Entertainment Weekly Magazine or an Official Movie Special, with the exception of a own, separate magazine. I wonder why.

[Sotiris]

Thousands Of Fans Have Been Hating On Rachel Zegler's Snow White For Getting The Dwarfs To Clean For Her
https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/thou ... arfs-clean

[Patricier21]

Thousands Of Fans Have Been Hating On Rachel Zegler's Snow White For Getting The Dwarfs To Clean For Her
https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/thou ... arfs-clean

When are people ever going to get a life and stop over thinking or worrying about things until they actually see them within context and actually truly understand them? Because imagine if the Internet and this kind of thing existed back when a lot of classical movies are coming out and they overreacted towards things they heard about such and such a classic movie and they would not have ended up Becoming the classics let alone as successful as they are today