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Sotiris wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:17 am
Dave Bossert wrote:I had run into somebody the other day and they work at Walt Disney Animation Studios and I said 'Hey, how's everything going?', they said 'Well, the entire third act of Moana 2 is still in storyboards and the movie has to be done in 16 weeks.'
Source: https://youtu.be/_M9sqgWVHnI?si=FPQUGtfmYCr3cW9L&t=4306
You can easily tell from the trailers, they constantly show the same scenes and without a song in the trailer

Expected from a show that was transformed into a movie last december
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Pokenonbinary wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:34 am
You can easily tell from the trailers, they constantly show the same scenes and without a song in the trailer

Expected from a show that was transformed into a movie last december
Dude, the second trailer didn’t have the same scenes from the first trailer. What part of that do you not listen to?
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You don't have to be so rude. Not everybody agree with your opinion and that's not bad.
The second trailer looks like an extended version of the first one. They showed Simea, a few scenes more and the end of the trailer is about Kakamora, like a little sneak peak of this part of the movie. It doesn't tells you anything interesiting about the story, it's a compilation of scenes without sense to attract audiences. It could be perfectly a trailer for another Illumination movie.
If the movie is not finished yet about 3 months before its release date just imagine how much work to do they had when trailers were released. I highly doubt that they even had the half of the movie done by then.
At least they had luck because they have the whole universe built and they don't have to creat all from 0 but if this project was a whole new classic this situation could be a disaster. These kind of things don't use to be good nor for the movie and nor for the workers. Just remember how bad times did Marvel's FX workers because they were changing lots of things weeks before the release date.
This kind of things happen because nobody knows how to rule the company and because they are always searching for easy money with sequels and LA. They are lucky enough to have Moana because it's a franchise that sells really well and it can save them for one moment.
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Sotiris wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:17 am
Dave Bossert wrote:I had run into somebody the other day and they work at Walt Disney Animation Studios and I said 'Hey, how's everything going?', they said 'Well, the entire third act of Moana 2 is still in storyboards and the movie has to be done in 16 weeks.'
Source: https://youtu.be/_M9sqgWVHnI?si=FPQUGtfmYCr3cW9L&t=4306
"The other day" would have to mean a month or so back because we're at a little under 12 weeks now until the premiere. There's probably been more progress since then.

I mean, it still sounds like they'll be editing down to the last hour, so I guess I can't say their situation is THAT MUCH better.
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PatchofBlue wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 1:01 pm
"The other day" would have to mean a month or so back because we're at a little under 12 weeks now until the premiere. There's probably been more progress since then.

I mean, it still sounds like they'll be editing down to the last hour, so I guess I can't say their situation is THAT MUCH better.
They need to have at least a rough version of the movie as soon as possible for those countries that have to doubt it into their language. I don't know how much time studios are going to have to translate everything but they need to run much.
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Thumper_93 wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 12:42 pm You don't have to be so rude. Not everybody agree with your opinion and that's not bad.
The second trailer looks like an extended version of the first one. They showed Simea, a few scenes more and the end of the trailer is about Kakamora, like a little sneak peak of this part of the movie. It doesn't tells you anything interesiting about the story, it's a compilation of scenes without sense to attract audiences. It could be perfectly a trailer for another Illumination movie.
If the movie is not finished yet about 3 months before its release date just imagine how much work to do they had when trailers were released. I highly doubt that they even had the half of the movie done by then.
At least they had luck because they have the whole universe built and they don't have to creat all from 0 but if this project was a whole new classic this situation could be a disaster. These kind of things don't use to be good nor for the movie and nor for the workers. Just remember how bad times did Marvel's FX workers because they were changing lots of things weeks before the release date.
This kind of things happen because nobody knows how to rule the company and because they are always searching for easy money with sequels and LA. They are lucky enough to have Moana because it's a franchise that sells really well and it can save them for one moment.
Least Marvel took strong steps to make sure their VFX crews aren’t rushed anymore.
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Strangely, knowing they're still working on the film makes me a bit more optimistic about it. I guess because there's still a chance they can improve it. Anyway, I never had high expectations for the film. I don't expect it to be too bad either, though, since WDAS productions for Disney+ like Olaf Presents, Zootopia+ or even the Big Hero 6 shorts haven't been bad. I know this is a bit different, because this series was going to have longer episodes and it's the first time they've turned a project like this into a movie, so we'll see how it turns out.

Thumper_93 wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 11:38 pm Don't worry about the video! The problem here is that is not a leak at all. It was posted by a toy shop, not leaked from someone that get access to it. It is really weird to not show anything from the movie when it is going to be released in a few months. Wicked dolls were shown some weeks ago and the movie is going to be release on week earlier than Moana
I guess that toy shop wasn't allowed to post the dolls yet. But, yeah, when it's posted on a site like that you think it's official and you can share the images, but apparently not. Well, Wicked is from another studio, so maybe they do things differently. I don't remember if the dolls from Wish had already been revealed officially by this time last year or not.
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D82 wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:32 pm Strangely, knowing they're still working on the film makes me a bit more optimistic about it. I guess because there's still a chance they can improve it. Anyway, I never had high expectations for the film. I don't expect it to be too bad either, though, since WDAS productions for Disney+ like Olaf Presents, Zootopia+ or even the Big Hero 6 shorts haven't been bad. I know this is a bit different, because this series was going to have longer episodes and it's the first time they've turned a project like this into a movie, so we'll see how it turns out.

Thumper_93 wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 11:38 pm Don't worry about the video! The problem here is that is not a leak at all. It was posted by a toy shop, not leaked from someone that get access to it. It is really weird to not show anything from the movie when it is going to be released in a few months. Wicked dolls were shown some weeks ago and the movie is going to be release on week earlier than Moana
I guess that toy shop wasn't allowed to post the dolls yet. But, yeah, when it's posted on a site like that you think it's official and you can share the images, but apparently not. Well, Wicked is from another studio, so maybe they do things differently. I don't remember if the dolls from Wish had already been revealed officially by this time last year or not.
I consulted my TikTok account and I made the video about Wish dolls september 29th so yes, they release the photos in September
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Looks like Sotiris was right.

I was looking at the now-deleted video Dan Abraham, the co-Director and co-writer of Once Upon A Studio, posted on Instagram of Walt Disney Animation Studios now opening up the Burny Mattinson Theater (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_uEIPOv ... FtcjNrYw==), dedicated to the late Mr. Burny Mattinson, and look what I found on the list of the screenings happening on the day the video was taken.

The title “Versa,” so maybe that is indeed the next Walt Disney Animation Studios short and the short we may see with Moana 2.

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More artwork of Moana and her sister:

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Thumper_93 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:56 am I consulted my TikTok account and I made the video about Wish dolls september 29th so yes, they release the photos in September
OK, then it's not later than usual for them to be released.
D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:37 am Looks like Sotiris was right.

I was looking at the now-deleted video Dan Abraham, the co-Director and co-writer of Once Upon A Studio, posted on Instagram of Walt Disney Animation Studios now opening up the Burny Mattinson Theater (https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_uEIPOv ... FtcjNrYw==), dedicated to the late Mr. Burny Mattinson, and look what I found on the list of the screenings happening on the day the video was taken.

The title “Versa,” so maybe that is indeed the next Walt Disney Animation Studios short and the short we may see with Moana 2.
Nice find! I'm curious what the short could be about. Could the title be referring to vice versa?
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I have to say that the story of this film's production will be very interesting should anybody be bothered to document it.
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Jules wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:28 pm I have to say that the story of this film's production will be very interesting should anybody be bothered to document it.
Least this film had a clear story in mind that will stay the same and won't be changed, unlike Frozen 2.
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Cover story out from Entertainment Weekly on Moana 2: https://ew.com/moana-2-disney-aulii-cra ... ry-8710022.
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I'd figured something like this would happen once we lost that extra screentime.
Originally, the TV series gave deeper, more involved arcs (and musical moments) to these characters that had to be significantly slimmed down for the film. "It all has to answer Moana's drive or Moana's conflict and seeing it through her eyes," Derrick says. "The [new characters] don't get their own tangents, but we were able to figure out who they are and boil them down to how they serve the story."
The most interesting part to me was this insight into the music. I still think the music should have stayed with Miranda, but now that we're here, I do genuinely hope that they lived up to their full potential as songwriters.
Just as Moana has aged, so has Cravalho — her voice deepening and expanding as she's developed her instrument. Barlow and Bear wanted to push Cravalho to bring that vocal evolution to Moana. "This is a new part of my voice," Cravalho notes. "I haven't explored this kind of depth with Moana before. This film digs into these low notes in these times of indecision when we don't know what we are supposed to do next. There's a lot of deeper layers to these songs."

That's particularly noticeable in the centerpiece number "Beyond" as well as "I Want," a song that is something of a spiritual successor to "How Far I'll Go" (the lyrics even name-drop the song). For Barlow and Bear, it was an opportunity to push the notion of how far Moana would go "beyond" the horizons of her previous journey, referencing the first musical number and building on top of its ideas. "It's bigger than just her personal journey now," says Barlow.

"We also wanted her to be more vulnerable," Bear adds. "'Beyond' is a little bit darker than 'How Far I'll Go' because the stakes are suddenly so much higher. She's about to make a big decision that will affect the rest of her life. She knows more of the world and what's out there, so she knows what to expect — and that could be scary."

The song expresses Moana's commitment to her people and promise to come home no matter how far she must venture. "That hit me square in my chest," admits Cravalho, who found the song very personal. "I feel most like myself when I'm at home, and yet I feel like I owe it to my community to go as far as I possibly can. There was a safety in 'How Far I'll Go,' but when you feel lost in the expanse of the beyond, that's when true character is born."
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There’s a song called ‘I Want’??

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Are we sure that wasn't just a placeholder that accidentally got finalized?
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More merch has appeared on a Swedish website and eBay, including a Loto doll whose description reveals the object she's often seen holding in her hand is a wood carving tool.

Loto 15 cm Petite Doll
Moana 15 cm Petite Doll
Moana's Light-up Shell Necklace
My Singing Friend Moana & Heihei
Moana's Adventure Petite Gift Set


A Spanish book preview also gives us our first look at a monster that attacks Moana and her crew.

D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:30 am Cover story out from Entertainment Weekly on Moana 2: https://ew.com/moana-2-disney-aulii-cra ... ry-8710022.
This other article from Entertainment Weekly expands a bit on Maui's arc in the sequel. We'll see how it's executed, but it sounds interesting to me.

PatchofBlue wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:39 pm I'd figured something like this would happen once we lost that extra screentime.
Originally, the TV series gave deeper, more involved arcs (and musical moments) to these characters that had to be significantly slimmed down for the film. "It all has to answer Moana's drive or Moana's conflict and seeing it through her eyes," Derrick says. "The [new characters] don't get their own tangents, but we were able to figure out who they are and boil them down to how they serve the story."
Hopefully, some of the cut material is included on the Blu-ray/digital release as deleted scenes.

PatrickvD wrote: Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:12 am There’s a song called ‘I Want’??

:lol:
Apparently, it was a typo and has been corrected:
That's particularly noticeable in the centerpiece number "Beyond," another classic "I want" song that is something of a spiritual successor to "How Far I'll Go" (the lyrics even name-drop the song). For Barlow and Bear, it was an opportunity to push the notion of how far Moana would go "beyond" the horizons of her previous journey, referencing the first musical number and building on top of its ideas. "It's bigger than just her personal journey now," says Barlow.
Source: https://ew.com/moana-2-disney-aulii-cra ... ry-8710022

We already know the titles of three of the songs then: "We're Back" (the opening number), "Can I Get a Chee Hoo?" (Maui's song) and "Beyond" (Moana's "I Want" song).
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Jules wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:28 pm I have to say that the story of this film's production will be very interesting should anybody be bothered to document it.
We will get another article like the one from Inside Out 2 where they got to work 7 days for 4 months
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The difference in Cravalho's voice--her voice was always a little shrill, so maybe the deepening will be a good thing--and the new songwriters leave an open possibility for something better than the original just like with everyone else. Of course, it could mean it might end up worse, but it could have some things better than the first film. :P
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Real quick, I have the logo revealed for Walt Disney Animation Studios’ new short film, Versa, courtesy of an Instagram story post from one of the animators at Walt Disney Animation Studios.

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Also, when I asked Carlos Friha, animator at Walt Disney Animation Studios, if we’d see the short Versa with Moana 2 in November, all he could say to me was this… “I’ll update once we know”: https://www.instagram.com/p/C_9CAPpzrLs ... hnODUxa3Ny
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