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TheValentineBros wrote:Thank god The Social Network did not win for Best Picture. I'm not saying I hate this movie. I haven't seen it, but judging from the trailer, it's overrated.
Umm...what? How can you say it's overrated without watching it? The trailer is nothing more than a bunch of quick scenes spliced together and indicates nothing about the overall direction, Aaron Sorkin's screenplays or the performances. The trailer doesn't even show any indication that The Social Network is, in fact, a costume drama.

You don't see me saying I'm glad that 127 Hours, for example, didn't win, because guess what? I haven't seen it, so I don't know whether it's good or not.
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Don't see anyone talking about the lame hosting job that James Franco and Ms. Hathaway did. C'mon, their opening was a direct rip-off of something Billy Crystal would do, only better, and that section with Anne dressed in a tux and Franco in a dress didn't garner anything but groans from the audience.

Really liked the tributes to those who have passed on this past year, and also the turning back the clock to the time when Bob Hope was a host for the awards.

I hope the Academy does a better job next year finding a host better suited to do this job. Why not pay Billy Crystal what he wants to do the hosting job. He is well worth it, and the ratings definitely would not have dipped as sadly as they did last night.

While I don't agree with all the awards, I do think that the Academy got it right, again, this year.
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UmbrellaFish wrote: I don't think "Tangled" could have been nominated for Best Original Score this year because of a new rule about musicals being ineligible for that category.
Now I remember that. It's a shame. :( "Kingdom Dance" especially was extremely good.
SillySymphony wrote:Last year we endured the comedic duo of Alec Baldwin and Steve Martin. Hugh Jackman hosted in 2009. I assume he was mentioned so much last night because he was such a popular host. (I wouldn't mind bringing him back.)
Oh, yeah. I remember watching last year, but I completely forgot about them. :lol: It feels like Jackman was only a little while ago.
TheValentineBros wrote:Thank god The Social Network did not win for Best Picture. I'm not saying I hate this movie. I haven't seen it, but judging from the trailer, it's overrated. Congrats to The King's Speech!
I agree. I'm a big fan of Jesse Eisenberg, but TSN looks dull as all get-up. (Yes, I just used that expression. :lol: )
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Anne Hathaway and James Franco did a great job!

Happy that Natalie Portman, Christian Bale and Colin Firth won. Also glad that Alice in Wonderland and Inception took home some awards.

Amy Adams or Helena Bonham Carter should have won in their category though.

A shame that TRON: Legacy did not win, and that it was not nominated in more of the technical categories.

And really, really not happy about Alan Menken and Glenn Slater not getting the Oscar for I See the Light from Tangled. And they lost it to Randy Newman! His singing is so annoying, and every song he makes sounds the same and are forgettable ones. Clearly, his victory came because of the Pixar name and because the song came from Toy Story 3.

Happy for Toy Story 3, but Tangled should also have been nominated. Pixar is great and all, but I wonder if they are not a little bit overrated.
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Prince Edward wrote:And really, really not happy about Alan Menken and Glenn Slater not getting the Oscar for I See the Light from Tangled. And they lost it to Randy Newman! His singing is so annoying, and every song he makes sounds the same and are forgettable ones. Clearly, his victory came because of the Pixar name and because the song came from Toy Story 3.
Thaaaaank you! :wink: I was starting to think I'm the only one who believes this.
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Sotiris wrote:
Prince Edward wrote:And really, really not happy about Alan Menken and Glenn Slater not getting the Oscar for I See the Light from Tangled. And they lost it to Randy Newman! His singing is so annoying, and every song he makes sounds the same and are forgettable ones. Clearly, his victory came because of the Pixar name and because the song came from Toy Story 3.
Thaaaaank you! :wink: I was starting to think I'm the only one who believes this.
Haha, you're welcome!;D I mean, what are people thinking? His song should not have been nominated in the first place. I detest all his Pixar-songs, how anyone can listen to them (and his singing!) and think they deserves awards is beyond me;)
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James Franco looked like he was half-asleep. Anne Hathaway, pro that she is, really turned up the volume and kept things moving. It's a hard job when your co-host is as "inanimate" as Franco was. It'll bet Anne was glad to kick off her shoes when the show finally wrapped.
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dvdjunkie wrote:Don't see anyone talking about the lame hosting job that James Franco and Ms. Hathaway did. C'mon, their opening was a direct rip-off of something Billy Crystal would do, only better, and that section with Anne dressed in a tux and Franco in a dress didn't garner anything but groans from the audience.

Really liked the tributes to those who have passed on this past year, and also the turning back the clock to the time when Bob Hope was a host for the awards.

I hope the Academy does a better job next year finding a host better suited to do this job. Why not pay Billy Crystal what he wants to do the hosting job. He is well worth it, and the ratings definitely would not have dipped as sadly as they did last night.

While I don't agree with all the awards, I do think that the Academy got it right, again, this year.
disagree with all of this. They werent the best hosts, but they werent really bad.

I havent seen all the films nominated-and I plan to-but it was all too predictable. the only upset being that Randy Newman won. It was a good song and Alan Menken has so many wins under his belt, but his singing sucks. Tangled should've won.

And I forget what Tron: Legacy was even nominated for.
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Get over it, people! 'I See The Light' sucked to high heavens, as did all the music in Rapunzel --an otherwise great film! You're only hating on Newman and Pixar because you expect anything that's labeled "Disney" to automatically win.

Oh, and I like Newman's singing. For the same reason I also love Dylan's singing (and most of you probably hate both): because it's unique and authenthic and full of passion, and not slick, lifeless but conformed to the mainstream so that everybody can immediately 'get' it the first time they hear it.

UmbrellaFish wrote:And Natalie Portman wins Best Actress for "Black Swan"!

Congrats to Natalie! :clap:
Very, very well deserved. We watched that movie in the theater and were literally exhausted when it was over. All thanks to Natalie's performance.
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Goliath wrote:Oh, and I like Newman's singing. For the same reason I also love Dylan's singing (and most of you probably hate both): because it's unique and authenthic and full of passion, and not slick, lifeless but conformed to the mainstream so that everybody can immediately 'get' it the first time they hear it.
And I figured I was the only one around here that actually likes Newman's singing for the most part. :lol: Although I honestly didn't care much for "We Belong Together" and prefer other work he's done. I can't comment on what I think should have won this year since I'm not familiar enough with the rest of the noms outside of his work and the Tangled song, but I did have a soft spot for "I See the Light." :p
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I propose that next year they get someone to host the show who is actually, you know,... funny. James Franco and Anne Hatheway are great actors, no doubt, but honestly what a big suckfest this was. The opening skit had some funny moments... After that the funny parts were non-existant. James was stoned, no doubt - which is fine, but not very entertaining to the people at home who aren't. Some joke about lesbians got through, which I swear I'd already heard at some other film award show. Mellisa Leo's F-Bomb. That was classy. You'd almost think her role in The Fighter didn't require much acting at all. Anne in a tux and James in drag, sure, why not. Then there was Gwyneth Paltrow singing. That was just swell. As if my ears didn't suffer enough from all the awkward speeches and flat jokes. The show was apparantly trying to be hip, cool and modern, so what better way to achieve that than to auto-tune the movies. Brilliant! Fire the person who thought that was a good idea. So, what they were basically trying to say was: a younger demographic = no taste. It wasn't even edited that great either.

If it wasn't for the fact that I wanted to know who was going to win Best Picture, I would've turned it off by then. The auto-tune movies and Gwyneth was just too much.
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Goliath wrote:Get over it, people! 'I See The Light' sucked to high heavens, as did all the music in Rapunzel --an otherwise great film! You're only hating on Newman and Pixar because you expect anything that's labeled "Disney" to automatically win.
That's not true. I've said that I would rather have any of the other three songs win but Newman's which I find to be the worst. It doesn't have to do with the label "Disney" (to which Newman belongs to anyway) but with personal taste in music.
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I don't recall posting about the Oscars here, but here's we go.

I thought the whole show was a bore, to be honest. However, I will say that people are not giving Anne Hathaway enough credit. She has this natural dorky gal thing going for her, and you can tell that she had the energy to be silly and fun, like when she dissed Hugh Jackman for not singing with her. That I thought was cute.

James Franco, however, was just bland. There were even times where some of the jokes were rather insulting due to the poor delivery, like after they talked about the technical awards apart from the show, he says "Congratulations, nerds!". It came off as being insulting to those people rather than a witty remark. There's also the Winter's Bone joke where even the internet finds that joke insulting as well.

Regarding the winning movies, I can't say much about them since I haven't seen them all yet. However, I am beginning to suspect that "The Social Network" might be extremely overrated at this point. All I read on Twitter last night was "OOOH SOCIAL NETWORK SHOULD HAVE WON'. I have this tendency of being cautious with movies that are either underrated or very overrated, hence why I haven't seen Avatar yet, and will do the same with Social Network, because I fear that it will not live up to all the hype the fans are creating.

About animated features, I wasn't surprised that Toy Story 3 won, but in my heart I wanted Dragons to win. Bash me, troll me, disagree with me all you want, but Dragons is one of the few honest films from Dreamworks animation, and the one that will likely be very timeless and regarded for many years, and it deserves more recognition from people. Had it not been for Toy Story 3 Dragons would have easily won the Oscar.

In terms of original song, if you can tell by my sig you know which song I was rooting for :p . But in all seriousness, I didn't hate Newman's song at all. I didn't like it, like it, but didn't hate it as much as everyone else. But what bothers me most about the win is that it all feels like a pity win. This WAS Newman's 20th nomination, so much like his Monster's Inc. win it looks like they wanted to give him the award so they could say that on his 20th try he got another award. I don't know, it just didn't felt like an honest win.

There was a lot of hype for "Exit through the gift shop", and I was surprised it didn't win. Granted, though, this might be another movie I might avoid for a while since EVERYONE and their grandmother loves this movie to death, and you know what tends to happen with those types of movies. That and he worked with the Simpsons on that opening which doesn't sit well with me (I thought it was a rather hypocritical thing of them to do, Banksy included, sorry fanboys).

Finally, I think I was one of the few that liked the autotune segment. Although, I understand why people think it felt out of place. It was a funny joke, but that time could have been used for something more appropriate.

So overall, the show was pretty bad, and I suspect they might have to work hard next year as they are always paying attention to the ratings and what people are saying.
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Goliath wrote:Get over it, people! 'I See The Light' sucked to high heavens, as did all the music in Rapunzel --an otherwise great film! You're only hating on Newman and Pixar because you expect anything that's labeled "Disney" to automatically win.

Oh, and I like Newman's singing. For the same reason I also love Dylan's singing (and most of you probably hate both): because it's unique and authenthic and full of passion, and not slick, lifeless but conformed to the mainstream so that everybody can immediately 'get' it the first time they hear it.
I find it very offensive that because I preferred "I See the Light" over "We Belong Together" (which was forgettable, and the same song I'd heard in a Pixar film twenty times in the past), you are prepared to write off mine and others' objections to its winning the award because I'm a super crazy obsessed Disney fan or something. I'm not. I just have different tastes than you, and it would be nice if you'd respect that.
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I agree with most of the awards. The ones I don't agree with...

Best Director
Won: Tom Hooper (The King's Speech)
Should Have Won: David Fincher (The Social Network)

Tom Hooper simply should not have won in this category. The King's Speech may have been the best film but it did not have award-worthy directing. Fincher was the best in that category but I'd argue that the non-nominated Christopher Nolan should have won.

Best Supporting Actress
Won: Melissa Leo (The Fighter)
Should Have Won: Hailee Steinfeld (True Grit)

Melissa Leo's acting was undoubtedly superb but considering that Hailee Steinfeld was 13 when True Grit was made, she was in 90% of the film and had award-worthy acting I think she had the bigger achievement. I don't really like how Leo campaigned for the win either.

Best Original Song
Won: We Belong Together (Toy Story 3)
Should Have Won: I See the Light (Tangled)

I found We Belong Together to be totally unremarkable and I would have picked any of the other nominees to beat it.

Best Foreign Language Film
Won: In a Better World
To me the two best foreign language films of 2010 weren't even nominated, 'Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives' and 'Of Gods and Men' were spectacular films and to not receive a nomination, never
mind win is a total travesty.

All in all 2010 was a much better year for films than 2009. Any of this years nominations could have won Best Picture. The Hurt Locker was not a patch on any of this year's nominations.

Looking back I am quite honestly shocked at some of the Academy's past choices...

You Can't Take it With You over La Grande Illusion
How Green was My Valley over Citizen Kane
My Fair Lady over Dr. Strangelove
The Sting over American Graffiti AND The Exorcist
Rocky over All the President's Men AND Taxi Driver AND Network
Annie Hall over Star Wars
Kramer vs Kramer over Apocalypse Now
Ordinary People over The Elephant Man AND Raging Bull
Chariots of Fire over Reds AND Raiders of the Lost Ark
Driving Miss Daisy over Born on the Fourth of July
Dances with Wolves over Goodfellas
Shakespeare in Love over The Thin Red Line AND Saving Private Ryan AND Life is Beautiful
Chicago over The Pianist
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UmbrellaFish wrote:
Goliath wrote:Get over it, people! 'I See The Light' sucked to high heavens, as did all the music in Rapunzel --an otherwise great film! You're only hating on Newman and Pixar because you expect anything that's labeled "Disney" to automatically win.

Oh, and I like Newman's singing. For the same reason I also love Dylan's singing (and most of you probably hate both): because it's unique and authenthic and full of passion, and not slick, lifeless but conformed to the mainstream so that everybody can immediately 'get' it the first time they hear it.
I find it very offensive that because I preferred "I See the Light" over "We Belong Together" (which was forgettable, and the same song I'd heard in a Pixar film twenty times in the past), you are prepared to write off mine and others' objections to its winning the award because I'm a super crazy obsessed Disney fan or something. I'm not. I just have different tastes than you, and it would be nice if you'd respect that.
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yamiiguy wrote:I agree with most of the awards. The ones I don't agree with...

Best Director
Won: Tom Hooper (The King's Speech)
Should Have Won:

Darren Aronofsky for Black Swann, in my opinion.


UmbrellaFish wrote:I find it very offensive that because I preferred "I See the Light" over "We Belong Together" (which was forgettable, and the same song I'd heard in a Pixar film twenty times in the past), you are prepared to write off mine and others' objections to its winning the award because I'm a super crazy obsessed Disney fan or something. I'm not. I just have different tastes than you, and it would be nice if you'd respect that.

Oh, come on, you're not that easily offended, I know that! You are above such things. I'm sure you understand perfectly well whom that remark was aimed at --and it wasn't you. Take a look at the 'Disney Discussion' threads on this subject and you know who I mean and why I said what I said. :)


enigmawing wrote:And I figured I was the only one around here that actually likes Newman's singing for the most part. :lol: Although I honestly didn't care much for "We Belong Together" and prefer other work he's done.

He has done better, like some of the songs for Princess and the Frog, but 'We Belong Together' was better than 'I See The Light', in my opinion.
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During his acceptance speech, Newman joked regarding his ratio of nominations to wins, noting ‘my percentages aren’t great. I’ve been nominated 20 times and this is the 2nd time I won. At the Academy, at the lunch they have for the nominees, where they have like a Randy Newman chicken by this time…’

Backstage, Newman remained humbled and surprisingly candid as he addressed the press regarding his win and his career in general.

‘This is really very nice, you know. I didn’t totally expect it. You know, last year, I was nominated for a couple of songs from Princess and the Frog, but I knew it wouldn’t win. I knew the country thing wouldn’t win. This time, I thought I might. It didn’t help me prepare anything to say, but it was very nice, as it always is, when people want to give you something.’

Newman also confessed that he didn’t necessarily feel that the award-winning song was one of the best examples of his work, stating ‘this isn’t the most consequential thing I’ve ever done for a movie by a long shot. You know, I remember I thought the score of A Bug’s Life really helped. Toy Story 2 also. The Natural.’
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Goliath wrote:
UmbrellaFish wrote:I find it very offensive that because I preferred "I See the Light" over "We Belong Together" (which was forgettable, and the same song I'd heard in a Pixar film twenty times in the past), you are prepared to write off mine and others' objections to its winning the award because I'm a super crazy obsessed Disney fan or something. I'm not. I just have different tastes than you, and it would be nice if you'd respect that.
Oh, come on, you're not that easily offended, I know that! You are above such things. I'm sure you understand perfectly well whom that remark was aimed at --and it wasn't you. Take a look at the 'Disney Discussion' threads on this subject and you know who I mean and why I said what I said. :)
Damn you, Goliath. ;) You're too nice.

Sorry for going ballistic on you. :)
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UmbrellaFish wrote:Damn you, Goliath. ;) You're too nice.

Sorry for going ballistic on you. :)
Me? Too nice?! There goes my carefully crafted image of the arrogant asshole. All destroyed with one stupid post. :(

You say you were going ballistic? No, my friend, 'ballistic' is a whole other category (think: posts about animated alligators). :D
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