Directors and Actors that you can't stand? (Movies, too)

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dvdjunkie wrote:I am laughing at all of you O'Reilly, Hannity, and Maher haters. They don't have an attitude, it is you, the uninformed that has the attitude. Truth in advertising is what you get with Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and all of the other Fox News broadcasters. If we would all listen to what they are saying, this country would be a whole lot better off. Don't bring politics or religion into this conversation, just understand what they are saying is what is truly happening in our beloved country, and those of you who can't see the forest for the trees, need to wake up and smell the roses!!! 'nuff said.
You're rather bad at sarcasm, fyi.
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You know who I hate? Rachael Ray.
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No, but Bill O'Reilly & Hannity aren't actors either.
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I don't hate, but I don't get the appeal for, Julia Roberts. I find her acting bland and consistently the same in everything I've seen her in. Same goes for Brooke Shields.
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Escapay wrote:I cannot stand Russell Crowe's acting. I'm sure he's a pleasant person in real life, but his acting really turns me away for some reason. It sucks because he's made several movies with Ridley Scott, a director whose work I enjoy, and because of my dislike for Crowe, I often have to avoid a Ridley Scott movie.
I'm not much of a Crowe lover as well. As much as I like Ridley Scott, Crowe was one of the ruining factors in Robin Hood (plus, it was just awful all round; when I saw it in the cinema, I got to the point of spotting reel changes and watching how the transitions went to relieve me of my boredom). I'm not sure if any of the other British people have seen the film and noticed it, or if any Americans per chance realised, but Crowe spoke with around ten alternating specific regional accents throughout the film. One moment, he spoke with an accent native to Nottinghamshire, then next into a Beatles-sounding Liverpudlian accent, and even into Irish territory. At least Kevin Costner stuck with the one distinct accent, even if it wasn't native to his character's nation.

As for other actors and actresses I don't like (some of the reasons may seem a bit poorly founded and based on odd gut instincts, I should add):

Angelina Jolie
She tried to ruin Jennifer Aniston's life. A tabloidish conspiracy of sorts, yes, but I just think that she's just a rather unpleasant figure (plus Jen = girl next door :D). And the fact that she seems to star in pretty much only action films makes me wish that she'd at least vary her roles.

Nicholas Cage
I just find him a bit creepy, plus I find there something about him that makes me think that he'd annoy me if we ever met.

Robert Patterson
A smug, moody pretty boy, that's really all. Contrary to my "fangirl" posts, I don't find him hot, nor do I like or approve of Twilight. :p

Jonas Brothers, Miley Cirus
I don't do Disney Channel, nor do I do ridiculously squeaky clean teens. And I certainly wouldn't want to pay good money to go and watch them on the big screen. I don't approve of the Jonas Brothers showing off their chastity rings to the world as well; it just comes as a desperate, sexually repressive thing to do, and while I can understand that what they're doing is respectful, it's almost as though they're needless to say being open about their sexuality (not orientation) in public by making such a commitment. :roll: I will defend Miley by saying that I liked her voicing the girl Penny in Bolt. Sure, it was probably some marketing executive who probably suggested she be in it, but it seems kinda fitting that a real life teen superstar was playing an animated equivalent. She did a good job overall, and not once did I think "oh god, it's Hannah Montana". Perhaps she just needs good material. :|
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I'm in the same boat as Escapay. I can't stand George Clooney either. It doesn't help that, to me at least, he seems to want to be the next Cary Grant. They are rather similar. Both are very popular actors, both have done comedy and drama and both are very handsome and suave.

Clooney, however, is just too smug. In every movie he makes he is always having that "I am better than you" smirk, even when the role demands him to be very serious.

Cary Grant, however, could transform himself. He could be smug if the role demanded it, or be very silly and comedic, or even be dramatic. The man had talent and knew how to get into character.
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I loathe Joy Behar! (Yeah, I know she doesn't act, but I need to vent!)
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Disney's Divinity wrote: Not to get off-topic, but that's the only thing that's ever annoyed me about Roseanne, too. I get that they were probably trying to be realistic, in that men like Dan or Mark just wouldn't like David. And that, in some ways, men like David do have a harder time being active and outgoing (in careers and relationships, I mean), but I think they just took it too far. Even Fred, who comes in later, is always treated as very annoying and unlikable. But, besides that one flaw, I've always agreed that Roseanne is one of the best sitcoms that's aired--and just a good show in general.

But Roseanne the person does come off a little...what's that word...cantankerous? She's just very off-the-bar and crass, in an extreme way.
Actually, this is exactly the way I feel too about both the person/character and the show itself. I enjoy the show occasionally, it's a good show, but I can get behind the stuff you and Laz said about David, even though I haven't seen as many of those episodes or the later eps in general, and you nailed what I was originally getting at when I said I didn't like Roseanne, ha. It wasn't really the show, but Roseanne herself I didn't care for, specifically for the reasons you mentioned.
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I actually like the first few seasons of Roseanne better than previous seasons (except for th Disney World episode which is hilarious). The stories were simpler and charming, and any serious topic was treated very well (such as when Roseanne quit her job and the drinking episode). But as time went on the stories became in a way pretentious. The show tried too hard in not diving into the cheesy sitcom ideals of the era (like Full House), and in a way it became annoying as well.

I'm the type of guy that treating things in either a too saccharine manner or a very rash and cynical manner can ruin a really good story. Whereas Full House was too sweet for its own good, Roseanne was too crass in dealing with its issues.

It didn't help that they had no idea as to be serious or be silly. I forgave the musical/dream episode, but everything else was too stupid... Really, why constantly reference that Becky wasn't always played by the same actress? It's the sort of thing that FANS point out and make fun of, not the show.
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@ slave2moonlight: I'm glad you didn't take it like I was attacking you with my post. That happens a lot lately on UD (not just to me), and I think it's nice when we can have an informed discussion. :)
slave2moonlight wrote:As for my talking about a certain other person, did I? I think I just said Comedy Central in general.
Okay, I thought you were talking about one person and assumed it must have been Stewart. I don't know Comedy Central that well. We get in The Netherlands, but it's very different from the American version, filled mainly with repeats of well-known sitcoms like Scrubs and Frasier etc. I always watch The Daily Show online. Colbert's show got old pretty fast, at least to me.
slave2moonlight wrote:I think the argument that is often made about bashing democrats and republicans equally is a cop out. It hardly comes off as equal, and hardly with the same spirit. Perhaps when one leans towards the side the commentators are on, it is harder to see that.
Maybe that has something to do with the parties that are being covered? The Democrats are often portrayed negatively for being weak ("pussies"), ineffective, in-fighters or sell-outs. You can make fun of that, but it's not as spectacular as the folks on the (far) right. I mean, the Tea Party people, headed by Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin are making more outlandish statements day after day. It seems like they're trying to outbid each other when it comes to craziness. These people dress up like the Founding Fathers, holding signs depicting president Obama as Hitler or a monkey and scream " keep your governments hands of my Medicare!" You must admit, the left doesn't have those kind of people. That's why mocking the right may seem more harsh. But they do it onto themselves.
slave2moonlight wrote:But, really, back to whether or not they are one sided, despite bashing both, I really don't see how anyone could miss how extreme left someone like Maher is. He may not claim to be a "Democrat", I really don't know, but even when they have the panel segment, it seems like the point is to gang up on the invited right-winger.
First of all, I think it's important to note that what's considered 'extreme-left' in the US isn't really extreme. It's just that the national debate has been dragged so much to the right, that what used to be the center is now considered the 'left'. Thus farther to that new 'left' automatically becomes 'extreme'. The Democrats are still being called 'left' in the US media, but looking at their policies, you'll see they've been slightly right of center since the establishment of the DLC at the end of the 1980's. The last *real* leftist presidential candidate for the Democrats was Dukakis in 1988.

Second, this is why Maher has repeatedly hammered the Democrats and president Obama in particular during his 'New Rules' segment. He accuses them of not standing up for the American people anymore. According to Maher, the Democratic Party is suited for bankers, credit card companies, big pharma and hedgefund managers --the position the Republicans used to take. So one could hardly say Maher is a Democrat. He also takes a lot of stances that are very anti-leftist. He's very much in favor of capital punishment; he was a fan of Ron Paul, one of the most conservative members of Congress; and he unequivocally supports Israel, no matter how many international human rights it violates.

But you already said that was not the actual thing that bothered you, so I'll leave it at this.
slave2moonlight wrote:But, again, the only thing that bothers me is his "everyone who disagrees with me about anything is an idiot" attitude, that's all. Even if I agree with someone a lot, that is just not acceptable to me.
It depends. I think he really only takes that attitude when it comes to religion, and he can get very fanatical about that. I think that's because so many things in the US get overshadowed by religion. Gay people can't marry or serve openly in the military because of religion. Politicians claim the US was founded as a Christian nation, while it was not. Texas Board of Education wants to change the schools' history books to rewrite the part about prehistoric times because of their religion. I could name a million other examples. I think Maher believes religion is so powerful in his country, that he *has* to stand up so forcefully, because 'if you give them an inch...' That's why I can forgive him for that.
slave2moonlight wrote:As for the idea that viewpoints of people like Maher are not shown in American media often, as someone who lives in the U.S. I think that's a pretty outdated statement. Maybe back when he was on ABC that was true, but I don't think that's the case today, or at least I don't think they are as "shocking" today.
Really? I follow US media pretty closely, but none of the topics Maher discusses on his show are discussed anywhere else. Does any media outlet ever pay attention to the fact that it's not health care which causes the budget to get overboard, but the military? Has any media figure ever mentioned that the US spends more on the military than all other countries combined? Do the commentators from other channels call for ending the 'American empire' and closing all foreign military bases? Or take his stance on the 'culture of greed' in the US, or his stance on religion as a 'neurological disease'. These are highly controversial topics. And it's never touched upon by any mainstream politician
slave2moonlight wrote:Still, whether I'm right on that or wrong, I don't think that is a good case for such extreme arrogance about your opinions.
Maybe it also has something to do with the media culture? Most commentators are like that, from Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity to Ed Schultz and Keith Olbermann (whom I love, by the way).
slave2moonlight wrote:Incidentally, if you really love women like Selma Hayek and Penelope Cruz, you should move to the town I lived in all my life and just moved out of. [...] I have a theory that men are mostly attracted to types that seem exotic to them though,
Hmmm... I know plenty of white Dutchies who absolutely only want white Dutch girls. Not because of racist motives, but that's what they like. Me, I like all kinds of girls. I never had a 'type', like most other guys. I find it too limiting. Beauty is not bound to ethnicity, I always say. Though I must admit I'll be more inclined to show interest in a dark-skinned or Asian beauty.
slave2moonlight wrote:and for me the type that seems exotic, after growing up in that area, is the supposedly "All-American girl next door" type that Glen Keane described as a very average look when he was using it to design Ariel
See? And I placed Ariel at no.1 in my list of Disney characters that I would... Nah, let's not go there anymore (before I shock Disney Duster again). :P
slave2moonlight wrote:but I WOULD make an exception for Selena Gomez or Jessica Alba
*Everybody* would make an exception for Jessica Alba, man! :D

I derailed the thread again, I see. At least it was a 'necessary derailment', right, CJ? :wink:
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pap64 wrote:I'm in the same boat as Escapay. I can't stand George Clooney either. It doesn't help that, to me at least, he seems to want to be the next Cary Grant. They are rather similar. Both are very popular actors, both have done comedy and drama and both are very handsome and suave. Clooney, however, is just too smug. In every movie he makes he is always having that "I am better than you" smirk, even when the role demands him to be very serious.
I won't disagree with you on Cary Grant's talent, but to you and the other Clooney-haters I have to ask: have you ever seen him in Three Kings or Syriana? Because you all keep referencing his roles in the lighter, more comedic genre, but he has done some pretty intense and heavy parts in serious films. With that, and his production of 'serious' films like Good night, and good luck, and his involvement in the conflict in Darfur, he had earned my admiration.
Disney's Divinity wrote:Oh, and Elizabeth Hasselbeck is an annoying twit.
Yes, she is. But she's also hot. So I just mute the video when she's talking. :D
Lazario wrote:I don't want to keep pimping George Carlin but, that was the guy who was famous for the attitude.
No pimping will ever do enough justice to the (comedic) brilliance of George Carlin.
The_Iceflash wrote:To me, Maher is no better than the Fox commentators. I don't care what anyone says but the "arrogant attitude" of his is not a good trait in the least.
There is one slight difference between them. Fox commentators twist facts, distort reality and rape the truth to get their point across, and Maher does not. Only a slight difference...
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Goliath wrote:
The_Iceflash wrote:To me, Maher is no better than the Fox commentators. I don't care what anyone says but the "arrogant attitude" of his is not a good trait in the least.
There is one slight difference between them. Fox commentators twist facts, distort reality and rape the truth to get their point across, and Maher does not. Only a slight difference...
:lol: :lol: Good one for giving Maher any credit.
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Goliath wrote:
pap64 wrote:I'm in the same boat as Escapay. I can't stand George Clooney either. It doesn't help that, to me at least, he seems to want to be the next Cary Grant. They are rather similar. Both are very popular actors, both have done comedy and drama and both are very handsome and suave. Clooney, however, is just too smug. In every movie he makes he is always having that "I am better than you" smirk, even when the role demands him to be very serious.
I won't disagree with you on Cary Grant's talent, but to you and the other Clooney-haters I have to ask: have you ever seen him in Three Kings or Syriana? Because you all keep referencing his roles in the lighter, more comedic genre, but he has done some pretty intense and heavy parts in serious films. With that, and his production of 'serious' films like Good night, and good luck, and his involvement in the conflict in Darfur, he had earned my admiration.
I've seen Three Kings and Good night, and good luck but not Syriana. Three Kings was a great film, and one I didn't expect to enjoy. It falls under my "I don't like watching him in a role unless it's an ensemble piece" category. There's still a sense of "I'm George Clooney, bitch!" smugness, but at least it's overshadowed by the movie's own strengths. The cinematography is amazing (and, I noticed in later years, shamelessly imitated/ripped off in the desert scenes for Star Trek: Nemesis).

I didn't care much for Good night, and good luck, but will agree it is a well-made film from his serious resume. I sold my DVD of it last year as I had only watched it once since I first bought it and at the time had no intention of watching it again. If it's on TV again, I'll probably give it a re-watch.

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The directors I can't stand are:
*Jason Friedberg and Aaron Seltzer
*Uwe Boll
*M. Night Shyamalan
*Michael Bay
*Roland Emmerich

The actors/actresses I can't stand are:
*Megan Fox, she may not be ugly, but she can't act.
*Christian Bale, he is good in some movies, I but I have issues with him.
*Miley Cyrus, Vanessa Hudgens, the Jonas Brothers, and some other tween stars from Disney, they can't act nor sing.
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Actors

Johnny Depp - I don't completely hate him, but does he REALLY need to star in almost every Tim Burton film released nowadays?!

Miley Cyrus - Her singing sucks and her acting sucks. There's no better way of putting it

Larry the Cable Guy (He starred in some movies, which counts him as an actor) - Don't even get me started on him.

for Directors:

Uwe Boll - I have nothing to say that has not already been said.

Michael Bay - Can't he make ONE movie that doesn't involve explosions?

Jason Friedberg/Aaron Seltzer - A note to both of you: Toilet humor is almost never funny.
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My list of Hollywood folks I can't stand is rather long, but if I had to pick one that I may dislike the most, it would most likely be Stephen Spielberg. I really don't like him as a person and think as a director he is a hack. I can count on my hand the number of films he has directed that I actually like, and most of them are "Indiana Jones" movies, who i give more credit to Lucas and Ford for there awesomeness.
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I actually don't like Spielberg very much either. I do like the Indiana Jones films and The Color Purple a lot and think Jaws and Jurassic Park are incredibly overrated. I also credit Tobe Hooper for more of what went right on Poltergeist and Spielberg for what went wrong.
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