Atlantica wrote:The fact that it was the songwriters who decided to weave in the lullaby from the beginning into it, that then made the directors make the decision to have the voice be her mother says a lot. Which explains why I feel a bit like
throughout it.
While this improved the song in terms of melody and structure, it weakened its storytelling, in my opinion. It made Elsa's journey of self-discovery less powerful and unique. Jennifer Lee should have stuck to her guns and made the voice Elsa's future self. She caved and it was to the film's detriment. Elsa uprooting her life and becoming the fifth spirit because her mother wanted her to is not a revolutionary act. Before this was revealed, I always thought the voice was going to be a manifestation of Elsa's self. To me, it made sense that her repressed or unconscious self would need to materialize in some form to push through her fear and comfort and guide her towards the person she was meant to be. Having her mom be that guide is ordinary and conventional and ultimately hampers Elsa's process of self-actualization.
Redadoodles wrote:I still hate that Kristoff tune that everyone seems to adore so maybe there is something wrong with me but I still think the joke is running for way too long and the sequence has no business being in a Disney film, let alone a fairy tale one. If the same thing was done in a Non Disney project, say The Swan Princess for example, people would for sure laugh at it rather than with it.
Agreed. That whole sequence is tonally off, unnecessary and cringe-worthy. I didn't like Kristoff's arc at all in the film. Having his entire personhood be defined by his relationship to Anna was not a good look and didn't do the character justice. Honestly, I think Anna and Kristoff should have broken up. Seeing him (and Sven) in his element in the Enchanted Forest and feeling so at home with the Northuldra made me believe he belonged there. It would have been a natural conclusion to his arc going from being an outsider to finding a community he could call his own. Moreover, it would have been a good opportunity to show a breakup in a Disney movie. It would have been innovative for a Disney classic to explore such a theme. Saying goodbye to your first relationship is a rite of passage and a coming-of-age milestone. It's realistic and relatable and audiences would have responded to it the same way they did with the "you can't marry someone you just met" exploration in the original.
Redadoodles wrote:Oh my goodness, YES. I really dislike that song and that scene. It tries so hard, too hard and does nothing for me.
The problem with that sequence and song is that it tries to do too many things simultaneously and in such a short amount of time. In just three minutes, it goes from Anna's shock and disbelief to mourning to gathering the strength to move on and complete the mission. It's too much. It doesn't ring true to the emotional response of losing a loved one.
It's only been a few times that the one I wanted to win actually does.
